Matt Binder: ah there’s that mister free speech we all know and love!

ah there’s that mister free speech we all know and love!

Aside from everything else (the stupidity of taking the quoted post at face value and the inanity of the comment) I wonder if he even has any sort of vague notion of an understanding of what political speech rules actually are in Germany

He doesn't seem to have much understanding of (or respect for) how the law works in his adopted home country so... my guess is no.

If he did, he wouldn't be allowing Nazi shit on his platform.

Musk doesn’t have a vague notion of an understanding of verbs.

I'm sure he knows they're different, because all of his favorite accounts are blocked there.

also that... is not at all what they were protesting (they were protesting anti-Palestinian media coverage)

Oh that account is absolute garbage, they've been caught making shit up a bunch of times

Musks?

yes

Both

If you can’t trust visegrad 24 who can you trust

theres just no fucking way the claims in the quoted post are true

he's so goddamn stupid.

If they were, then the people marching are shitty theocrats with very little support. Nothing like the level of support the shitty theocrats have here

BREAKING: some shit I absolutely made up

Aah, I see the problem. They got this all wrong.

I'm sure he'd be fine if it were AfD.

He's so insufferable

The people actually planning to overthrow the government there are his far-right buddies

The prince, the plotters and the would-be putsch: Germany to try far-right coup gangwww.theguardian.com Ex-soldier, conspiracy theorist, astrologer and anti-vaxxer among the first of 27 people on trial for trying to violently topple the German government – led by Heinrich XIII Prince Reuss

"they are demanding that a caliphate is established in the country" source: a friend told me

He’s a true American.

Plus I’d be more worried about the people here who want to establish a Christian theocracy.

Ofc, Nius, Zwangsmaus julians new verbal toilet lol. The guy who ran it sued to misgender a trans woman and his habit of fucking his young female employees got him fired from the shittiest rag in Germany, so he went begging for money from the international right-wing. Its not reliable

Calling to over throw the US government wouldn’t be covered by 1A. Clear and Present Danger. Schenck vs. US. Come on @kenwhite.bsky.social this is 1L con law shit.

Grant have you ever seen the bottom of an abandoned mineshaft

I think the preferred location these days is a gravel pit.

You should get royalties every time this happens online.

Aaaaaaaaaactually the case of Longstreet v One Abdandoned Mineshaft Outside Charleston (1863) is super relevant and timely here

huh, he's not even an engineer

Schenk hasn't been good law for more than 50 years. See Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969). See also article linked below. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...

Don’t Use These Free-Speech Arguments Ever Againwww.theatlantic.com Most speech, hateful or not, is protected by the Constitution. To pretend otherwise is foolhardy.

We learned in 2L con law, when most of us took it, that Schenck hasn't been good law in quite a few years.

He’s nothing if not consistent… yeah ok, he’s nothing

So you think Jan 6 was illegal then?

tbf he defines free speech as “whatever local laws say on the subject”

The deal is, Elon often mistakenly uses the word "absolutist" when he means "abolitionist".

Can you please find the January 6th version of this tweet by Musk.

It must exist, the man is so consistent with his views. 🤣

Meanwhile, some X premium subscriber vibes guys are actually on trial for a plot to overthrow the government of Germany. Has Elon mentioned them?

Alleged far-right plotters on trial in Germany accused of plan to overthrow statewww.theguardian.com Reichsbürger movement led by antisemitic pseudo-aristocrat driven by hatred for democracy, says minister

January 6th defender has thoughts

I guess demanding to overthrow an election in the US is okay for him if his guy does it? (tbf, German freedom of speech is more restricted than in the US and calling for a califate on a demonstration might actually be reason enough to demand those guys to leave or to end the demonstration)

Important to point out that the post he is promoting is absolute bullshit, or else you inadvertently help it seep into people's minds.

It’s only protected speech when it comes from conservative white people…

I’m going to share this post next time someone tries to argue that Elon Musk is not deluded

Why is Shirley demanding an overthrow of the German government?

Should we support pro terrorist movements calling for a dictatorship in the name of free speech? Will there be much free speech in their caliphate? Can one speak much once beheaded?

You're making a few errors here, but one is in trusting the premise that this is, indeed, a protest "demanding a caliphate". The German reporting I'm seeing does not establish that - the contrary.

Maybe a little www.tagesschau.de/inland/regio...

I saw that one! I think it's important to distinguish between the objective of a protest, eg. what the messaging was about what it was about, what protesters generally take it to be about, and lastly, the signs of individual protesters. If the sign turns out to be v common there I'll change my mind

When it's not a crime, call it something else that is a crime.

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