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love to worry about fascism and flee to (checks notes) italy
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or germany where the center-left leader makes biden look like lebron
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Well at least Sweden had remained staunchly-- *touches earpiece* second largest party? *earpiece again* and the mainstream left party's stance on immigration is what?
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Me realizing that even though I have multiple languages none of them are in not fascist-y places atm - Cyprus or a minor Greek island is looking better every day
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if i were going to try to bail it’d be britain or ireland because i don’t speak any other languages conversationally and i don’t really worry about those two as falling to fascism risks even if they do some terrible things tbh
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Scotland is my dream “run and hide” place.
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I'd go back to Ireland for the family ties if nothing else but the housing situation is eeeesh
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it is extremely bad but i suppose if one is genuinely at the “we gotta go” point they grind it out
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One thing about Greece/Cyprus is everyone's English is pretty good, Greek is actually pretty straight forward and the food is quite a bit better than my ancestral homeland (no offense guys it's just true)
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I knew a white guy who gave his reason for emigrating to France as "less racist" and I chuckle about that daily.
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i've checked my notes on this, apparently politics aren't real when they aren't in English
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Oh man, I've lived abroad and would take a visa now---and even especially now---but the USG's reach is long and our politics permeate everywhere
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yes but also these are very much not the countries i’d be looking to
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As a potential ROK resident, I feel personally attacked
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Tell me you don't follow European politics without telling me you don't follow European politics.
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well, the important thing is to be personally insulated from a country's problematic politics, so being an expat with a white collar job would be perfect really
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Italy comes up probably because it is weirdly easy to flee to if you have any Italian ancestry, I have two friends who have successfully acquired passports and shockingly quickly, too
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I don’t think they believed me about the fascism though
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And then you can live anywhere in Europe pretty much
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that’s a fair point but i don’t think ana’s bright enough to have that path in mind
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My wife who is an immigration paralegal has been gaming out all possible ways to get to EU citizenship.
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Spain looks plausible if you learn Spanish, have some funds, and also are willing to give up your us passport (big obstacle) - no dual citizenship.
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Me going hardcore mode on Duolingo might or might not be related to this
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My great grampa was Italian but was adopted with no legal papers in Calabria, we’ve been trying for years to prove he existed.
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Yeah that’s the only catch IIRC, you have to be able to prove the whole chain of male ancestors with documents. But if you can do it — hopefully you can! — it doesn’t even matter how far back you need to go, which is really weird!
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It’s definitely not the norm. We have two “secret” adoptions on that side of the family, my sister has spent so many years in this!
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An Italian passport gets you residency anywhere in the EU
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So incredibly privileged
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Yeah but I won't blame them for it
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She somewhat recently "came out as Christian," so maybe she does not mind Meloni's fashy tendencies.
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There’s really good gelato here though.
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If you’re gonna get a shabby imitation might as well go to the source.
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It’s not like they’re rehabilitating the name “Mussolini” over there or anythi–
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Joking aside, we’ve been wondering about this after years of chortling at people saying they’ll move overseas. But it’s pretty hard to feel optimistic about the near or medium term in the US these days. Unfortunately as far as we can tell most other countries are also fucked
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These fucking people are so narcissistic to think that they’re so important Trump is going to come after them instead of, like, their maintenance man
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