Satisfied Psychic: With respect and patience for people who can't 24/7 news binge, so much of this is "Why won't Biden [Do Thing He Has Already Done]?"

Holy moly www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...

Sen. Mark Warner works to gather Senate Democrats to ask Biden to exit racewww.washingtonpost.com Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) is attempting to assemble a group of Democratic senators to go to the White House on Monday and ask that Joe Biden exit the presidential race, according to two people with dir...

Jesus fucking Christ this is collective insanity

I'd like to believe that but honestly I think it seems like Biden is too risky now.

I think they’re falling for a gigantic rat fuck both of mass hysteria, personally.

Agreed.

It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Biden’s risky because everyone thinks he’s risky. We’re all in a Schelling tipping point game.

That I agree with. But it feels like Democrats aren't just freaking out because the media is freaked - they are legitimately questioning his ability to be reelected under these conditions.

Exactly. “Ability to be reelected” is directly linked to what everyone is saying about the risks of him staying in the race. Perception is creating reality.

But it's linked to the reality we all saw of him faltering at the debate. Beginning to feel like we have to choose between what they say or our lying eyes.

I mean, Trump is an insane felon rapist and a lot of people still voted for him. There’s no rule that says we have to honorably give a shit about if our candidate comes off as slightly addled, especially when we’ve got a perfectly good VP who can take over as soon as he makes it past the post.

Hey, I'll vote for a literal puppet on a stick if that's who the Democrats nominate. They can weekend at Bernie's him for all I care. But will everyone, is the question.

Yeah like Agree or disagree with him (I honestly don't know which camp I'm in yet!), I'm pretty sure that what's motivating Mark Warner of all people is genuine, honest panic that Biden isn't up to winning this election He's not someone who like, has axes to grind with Biden

I don’t think he has an ax to grind with Biden. I do think that jumpy Democrat politicians in the DC bubble aren’t exactly immune to mass hysteria.

Yes, for sure I mean for me it just comes down to What is the underlying truth of the matter??

This week SCOTUS killed Chevron deference, gave Trump total immunity, and Trump was credibly tied to Epstein, and it seems to me if your campaign somehow seriously can't find a way to then change the topic of conversation in the newspapers or stop your party panicking, what are we doing here exactly

Like, yes, ok, the media owns some of this. But also ... if you have a campaign, literally any of those are gigaquake events to change the tide and frame what you're going to do and take that message to the voters, and how exactly is it the campaign can't capitalize on it? That's the issue

I mean this in the nicest and most earnest way possible, not as a troll: what *specifically* would you recommend he do here?

Specifically to step back from the campaign citing health reasons and simultaneously endorse Harris as candidate

Okay, you really and earnestly believe that this would shift the coverage to Trump? Not Democratic dysfunction? Not questions about whether or not Harris was covering up the (now surely proven, given that he gave up) health problems?

I actually do think that it's possible to get the coverage to change to some extent, but it wouldn't be about getting Biden to step back, it would be about taking some pages out of the Republican playbook when it comes to media manipulation

I.e., doing or saying something so out of the norm that the media has no choice but to cover it. Like "accidentally" calling Trump a rapist or pedophile during a hot mic moment.

He called Trump a rapist today in Wisconsin

With respect and patience for people who can't 24/7 news binge, so much of this is "Why won't Biden [Do Thing He Has Already Done]?"

Don't want to be those guys saying, "the problem is the media," but the problem is the media. They are fixated so much on asking why won't Biden do Y, they don't report on him doing X, then they move on to Z after he does Y.

Plus the story is now metatextual, a feelings about feelings story. Where they report on what they feel other people feel, thus creating a vicious cycle.

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