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Also a little more subtly “SEAL Team Six” is the framework here because it was the original shockingly funny hypothetical but none of this military law stuff applies if he just sends the Marshals to kill someone—which, again, he already bragged he did
constitutional lawyers use your fucking brain challenge www.politico.com/news/2024/07...
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Also thank goodness Trump has never pardoned and restored rank to court martialed war criminals, I guess our worries were for nothing
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“Contributors” is not “members.” It means she’s appeared in a panel discussion. I literally know her. No, she does not support the federalist society. And I think this quote cuts her off in a way that makes her look stupid and gullible
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Like, a lot of academics still don’t get it. Finkelstein isn’t one of them.
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I would like to read the full quote — I do often suspect journalists of using the way lawyer tend to talk to trim their words into their preferred shape — but the link is broken.
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She says it’s up there with Dred Scott and korematsu, worst case scenario, gut punch. Specifically notes that it gives Trump a map for what pretexts he needs to set up when he Crimes in the future if elected mediaview.aljazeera.com/video/fKxCMu...
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And, with maybe a few *very* brave exceptions, is any prosecutor in the country going to want to go after the president's hitmen?
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In this hypothetical, are they just pretending pardon power doesn't exist?
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Oh the next paragraph does go on to point that out
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So that person goes to trial and Trump pardons them.
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Gotta love when the highest court of the land decides that Putin is a role model for the leader of the free world.
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The counterargument here is hilarious. Roberts specifically listed pardon power as something subject to absolute immunity, the assassins would obviously be pardoned at no risk in this scenario.
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It's an extreme hypo, but if Trump identifies a particularly MAGA junior officer and makes that guy his body-man; what stops him from keeping that guy and a signed blank-dated pardon for murder in the Oval (no state law there!), and ordering Lt. Yes-man to shoot anyone who refuses Trump's orders?
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I’m not quite sure but I think the law of the District of Columbia still applies in the White House? Like if you punch someone there you go to Superior Court for criminal battery not DC Federal District Court.
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I think they cut Claire Finkelstein off, and make her look gullible unfairly. [disclosure: i know CF, and she is under no illusions about where we are rn] Threat of court martial “Both ways” (for disobeying or for obeying) plus the pardon power from a corrupt criminal president ▶️ obeying v likely
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Like, her she is on Al Jazeera yesterday calling this ruling a worst case scenario mediaview.aljazeera.com/video/fKxCMu...
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Also Trumps lawyer agreed he'd be immune in that situation!
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And if you don't think the president could find someone willing to do something insane like nuke San Francisco, I have bad news about the airforce.
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