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Since so many neo-Nazis are complaining to Elon Musk about Hans Kristian Graebener being revealed as a neo-Nazi, this Twitter account may get suspended. So here is a permalink to a blog post.
“StoneToss” Tossed: Hans Kristian Graebener of Spring, TX – Anonymous Comrades Collectiveaccollective.noblogs.org
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…and it has been suspended as predicted despite no doxing throughout the entirety of the Stonetoss thread.
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Just say Antifa doxxed you because of your MAGA beliefs, and VOILA! Out of jail.
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I see Graebener is continuing the long Nazi tradition of being a really mediocre artist.
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"if only they had admired my paintings I would have left Poland alone!"
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I think ableism and body shaming hurts everyone, even when it's directed at nazis.
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there's so much shit to dunk on this dipshit over that if "where the fuck is your chin" is the best you can come up with that's just a self-report.
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Unless a Hero does what should be done making fun of a Racist’s bland face is all that’s gonna be done…
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Plus all the chin jokes should be directed at that Tate fella
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agreed - the only thing wrong with a nazi's face is that it doesn't have a fist in it.
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Serious question: WHY are we continuing to worry about tone policing when it comes to *insulting Nazis*? Also, the point IS to *insult* them! Insult them using the things THEY care about, that's literally the whole point of insults! They care about appearances: so mock their appearance!
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If you want a serious answer: the people you're intending to insult will likely never see it. But ordinary people who have done nothing vile other than not being conventionally attractive will. They're the ones who will see folks they know laughing at these "jokes." They're the ones who'll feel bad.
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If you want to insult one of these Nazi assholes to their face, fine. When you share stuff like that cartoon publicly online, well, the chances are strong someone who previously liked & respected you & thought it was mutual will see & go, "Oh. So that's what they really think about *me*, too."
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You never know what self-image issues people are struggling with, but I guarantee that someone struggling isn't making the distinction of, "Oh, he only thinks *fascist* fat people are bad." What they see is you saying a physical flaw they have is fair game to attack. And it makes them feel shitty.
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... you know maybe try to insult them in a way that isn't aligning with their standards to do so? Just a thought?
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it was body shaming, not tone policing suppose a nazi with a perfect chin shows up - now that you've casted virtue based on chin, you have signaled to everyone that they should listen to this second nazi because they have a strong chin and if it benefits them, fash will flood the zone with chins
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same goes for penis size. if people score cheap points by saying the fash all have small penises, the fash will highlight the meat-bat-wielding amongst them. the conversation is then about cocks, not the fascism you just can't ID an in-/outgroup within the fash and expect them not to exploit it
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Thank you for pointing this out! It deals splash damage to transmasc folks as well, so just a bad tactic all around.
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This is literally not tone policing. This is not about tone; it is about the content of what is being said and the values that it implies.
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I agree with being shitty to shitty people. The problem is that you’re agreeing with them that those are things to be ashamed of, and therefore, anyone on your side should also be ashamed, and likely is when they hear you, even if they aren’t the target. “Be awful to awful people” has some nuance.
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Serious answer: using systems of oppression in an attempt to punch up is not a "tone".
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Insults are fine. Insults that rely on making or implying or reifying links with already marginalized/oppressed groups—who are not assholes—aren't fine. You think you're punching up, but you're actually missing and punching down.
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Glad to know that my facial profile is an insult…
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Insulting them using the things they care about is just subscribing to their logic.
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I think it's 100% okay to be mean to bigots. Bigots don't deserve human rights~
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He looks a lot like me, which... Ugh.
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Why are you caring about callimg Nazis ugly???
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This is just so off target. We don't need to attack body image. You don't get to control what your chin looks like. Attack ideas. Ideas are where the fault lies.
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Saying this implies a nazi would have a point if they were physically attractive.
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I think it is perfectly okay to point out the ugly traits of White Supremacists because they frequently go on about the beauty and superior build of the Aryan Race. Just like it's okay to call Trump in particular fat because he makes fun of women's weight. Hypocrites deserve this treatement.
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He has a chin though?
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woo, white people are super mad about this one! preacher is evergreen.
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I'm about a third of the way through that thread and I have to commend them for the homework done.
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accollective.noblogs.org/post/2024/03... same info but not on twitter if you don't have an account!
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thank you, i was just looking to see if anyone posted it
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Good you posted that, the original thread on Twitter got removed by Elon.
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No way, he lives in TEXAS? I never would have guessed.
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Scared me briefly cause I went to High School in Spring, but i would've remembered a name like that