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Blocked.
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She was picked by Biden to be on the ballot in 2020. She received zero votes in the 2020 primaries. She was elected to succeed him *if he died in office*. She wasn’t elected to succeed him after the end of his first term.
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There has to be a beauty pageant for the next few weeks where Harris Newsom Whitmer & one or 2 others do tons of earned media and then the 4700 delegates to the convention who represent registered democrats nationwide will vote. That’s the best way to select the strongest ticket for the fall
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It’s much, much easier to make the case that those delegates were anointed than Harris. They were selected to put a rubber stamp on Biden, not to be representative of the party’s different factions or to make an important decision about the future of the country.
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Right, this is a great point. I actually have no idea what the composition of these delegates is if they’re freed from their pledge to Biden. Should I trust them? Why? Like I trust them as Dem partisans, but beyond that, what’s the case for trusting their independent judgment?
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We didn't vote on them. Why then should they be acting on our behalf in this matter, then?
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I voted for Joe Biden, I def did not vote for Whoever The Fuck to just make a random guess on my behalf at the Ushering In A Historic Landside Loss ball
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Yeah, this proposed hypothetical action here is actually *deeply* undemocratic!
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How is it less democratic than handing over the nomination to the person Biden picked as VP, someone who didn’t win a single vote in the 2020 primary?
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Because she won over 81 million votes to be vice president.
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This is all pointless because in the event Biden steps aside, it's pretty clear no one else will have a realistic shot at beating Harris at a convention, nor will they have the campaign war chest and infrastructure, so they're going to pass on the attempt, and the convention will be a formality.
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Find then why is everybody so appalled at the idea that the delegates should make the choice among several possibilities? Yes, Harris and should be a top contender, but if it is simply hers by default, she will be a much weaker candidate in the fall
Please name the delegate who would represent you in this process.
Also, nobody in the party is gonna want to take the nomination, at least nobody who you’d want to run. From their perspective there’s very little upside. Median outcome is they get to be Hubert Humphrey 2.0
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I really do fail to understand the insistence that all of this could only play out the same way it did half a century ago.
I really do fail to understand how you interpreted “median” as “only”.
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This situation has not arisen enough times to be taking about a median!
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She did not win any votes to be the presidential nominee. Those are two different things. Who picked her to be on the ballot as VP originally? One guy, not 81 million ppl.
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Whom 81 million people then voted in support of.
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81 million people who understood that, had the newly-elected president (not even then a young man) had an aneurysm on his first day in office, she would have served the entirety of his term.
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The guy primary voters chose to make that decision.
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Your racism and sexism is showing. Also, Kamala is the only one who has access to the over $100 million in campaign funds. Seriously, fuck all the way off with this nonsense.
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But when you’re talking about votes that she received the only thing that is valid is the 2020 primary, I’m surprised you didn’t know that.
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because votes for VP are tied to votes for Pres. Nobody says “i’m going to cast my vote for the best person to be VP.”
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I mean, the fact that Biden was really old and might not serve his full term was a big part of the conversation in 2020! Probably more so than any VP in recent history, people were saying they’d be OK with her taking over.
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yeah. that’s certainly a reasonable way to view it. that said, the bigger question in general is whether Biden won in 2020 or if Trump just lost.
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Ok, and how many people voted for any of the other names put forward for any of this in any respect, whether as a member of a ticket or otherwise?
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i dunno. i voted for biden. and if we spent as much energy helping him recover from a bad debate as we’re spending wringing our hands and buying into the media+trump narrative, we might be rather better off. none of this BS is going to help any democrat win in november.
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I agree completely! I think panic is begetting panic and some of it is disingenuous and feeding the side of it that’s not which lets the disingenuous side keep it up for another cycle. Everybody needs to stop and breathe and nobody can.
I've been yelling this at people on Twitter for a week now.
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Of course she didn't get any votes. She'd dropped out before any of the primaries happened.
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