I have noticed a remarkable correlation between “veterans who were file clerks” and “being loud mouthed violent MAGAs.”
I’ve also known a bunch of people with extremely serious combat experience who are committed progressives and leftists.
They also generally assume that combat vets will side with them too. Fun fact: Every single vet I know who's a fascist was a fucking file clerk or something who might've touched a weapon once a year and has no idea how to use it in real world conditions
My idiot brother whose service consisted of "trying to blow up a Walmart near Ft Hood with a howitzer" is super gung ho military rah rah maga. My friend's kid who is an Army Ranger is super lefty.
You are suppose to take your oaths and allegiances to ideas very seriously while being critic of the bias or conditions, if we are serious about it it is not even a question that you need to be good willed if you are going to be part of the military... 😬
Ps: of course, this is not always true...
The honor culture is imperfect and problematic, but every enlistee I've known personally was above replacement in general terms of decency and integrity.
In 2016, some of us went out for drinks about two days after the election with a tough guy Office of Naval Research Science Advisor / veteran. We were absolutely dreading him gloating, and instead he put his head down and says "I can't believe what is happening in this country". We were blown away.
Absolutely! Who's going to understand the consequences of the use of force better?
My friend's kid is the most terrifying person I've met- looks like a distance runner, but could cheerfully turn me into ribs and pulled pork in a minute.
