It really is making *me* feel crazy to see a bunch of other Democrat voters running around screaming about how Biden is now unelectable, on the basis of one bad debate and an incredibly obvious ratfucking campaign by America’s most craven newspaper.
I feel like treating Biden’s quite obvious and visible cognitive decline as a ratfuck and not something 80% of Americans and many members of Congress agree upon and are concerned about is equally weird! Reasonable people can disagree about the underlying reality, but there is not escaping the q.
It’s a rat fuck promoted by America’s most evil newspaper, and it sounds especially insane to me in light of how Trump is incredibly obviously incapable of stringing a coherent thought together.
I do think we need to all be more active but I also think that going nuts at this stage is a terrible idea and the main focus is maintaining democracy. Any concerns I have about Biden are ridiculous given what you've already noted about Trump and how unhinged and ridiculous his "thinking" has been.
I think that’s a really weird take! I watched a man who says he’s the only one who can defeat fascism fail to complete sentences in a debate he called for. What disinformation is informing my judgement that he can’t win the election? I saw it with my own two eyes.
That part isn't the disinfo part. It's the chaos and rumormongering that is going to be used to get Mike fucking Johnson etc. into power once they push Kamala Harris out of the line of succession. It's also being used to distract everyone from mounting a coordinated response to the Supreme Court
Yeah, once they’re running stories about how Trump et al are super-scared of the Dems running someone other than Biden or Harris (as if that would even work, legally), it gets pretty obvious that there’s a chaos encouragement going on.
I agree with you on several parts. Succession is something to worry about and cognitive decline isn’t worth discussing. My concern is the likelihood of Biden not completing a second term, the SC disqualifying Harris, putting Johnson in line. We should stop assuming things will be normal
"They’re taking black jobs now and it could be 18. It could be 19 and even 20 million people. They’re taking black jobs and they’re taking Hispanic jobs and you haven’t seen it yet, but you’re going to see something that’s going to be the worst in our history."
My god, you're right. He's incoherent
I think it's totally fine to be worried about Biden's aging. I think there's reason to be concerned that this limits some campaign possibilities. But I also think there's no real reason to be worried about his ability to be president.
So like, he's clearly mentally normal, even if he is more likely to garble some words now, and ramble/lose a train of thought. The debate was bad! It's not that he's just like that all the time, though.
Brother would you vote for a sack of potatoes if it ran for president against Trump? I would. I think actually there are way more people that would, and call me stancilpilled but the negative reaction online drives the narrative more than - what actually is the truth of what happened -
it sure would be cool if the blue no matter who folks would start demanding change from their party rather than admitting they’d vote for a sack of potatoes as long as it was a dem.
I think calling it *disinformation* is inaccurate, but it’s clearly trying to lean into his poor debate performance to either manufacture consent for removing Biden, or otherwise trial balloon the same.
It’s weird you don’t seem to know Heritage Foundation spoke to press re: how they would love Biden to drop out as it would block new candidate from the ballot in keystone states
Respectfully: Get a grip. You saw a man with a known severe stutter who has already done the job for nearly four years
I also like (loathe) the ones who say just have him drop and run Harris.
The second that happens the right wing goes into full open racism and misogyny on main mode (and it'll probably help them!) while the online supposed left goes back to their 2020 "sHe'S a CoP" bullshit. Fuck all of them.
1) the right is always in full racism and misogyny mode
2) replacing Biden is the single best thing to do to activate the left for the presidential election
To expand on 1, I have no doubt it'll get even worse, this all started with Trump v Obama birth certificate stuff and then the 2016 Clinton misogyny.
I do not have such faith in our left flank about 2, and I think a lot of reliable Dem voters will be demoralized having their president sidelined.
By that meaning that the current, Trumpist version of the Republican Party started with Trump pushing his way into birth certificate trutherism. Of course there's a much longer lineage he was grifting his way into but that started this current malignant form of it.
I think a lot of Dem voters are already demoralized by having their President reboot 5 minutes into a debate that he set up as an ass-whooping of Donald Trump 6 weeks earlier.
I do not want to spend the next 6 months worrying about whether he's going to glitch out again at any given moment.
If mfs cant “get activated” after what the supreme court did they are trash. Just giving the right hand of capital free reign to absolutely destroy workers and any budding labor movements. Just the fucking worst, no strategy, analysis or care for their community, dumbass morons imaginable.
I have every expectation that Harris will incite the absolute worst in America by her identity. Her existing as a top of banner person will be explosive. :-/
But the crank wing will find things to hate about her anyway, since she isn't Saint Sanders.
...and NYT goes apeshit on the "Dems in disarray/last minute substitute/is she good enough?!" rhetoric.
The racism and misogyny would be unreal. Granted, she could realistically take the helm mid term if he wins.
the fact that she could just step in and take over temporarily if he isn't doing okay, or could just step in and take over permanently if he clocks out (in fact, that's her job!) is the reason people are shitting their pants over nothing
Additionally to consider - I know if Biden dropped out and they tried to put someone not Harris is - that person won't be on the Ohio ballot and they lose all the donation funding (non transferable). Not sure what happens if they were to move Harris. Wouldn't be surprised if the same.
iirc Harris wouldn't have problems with the donations part because it's the Biden-Harris campaign entity. The ballots though might still read Biden at the top of the ticket though for states whose deadlines already passed. Which would probably lead to confusion for some voters, a risk in itself.
