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Chief Justice Roberts decrees the end of DOJ independence in an offhanded sentence on page 20.
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How does this ruling impact impeachment? Are there now no high crimes or misdemeanors?
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Impeachment is a completely separate act outside of the judiciary
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Impeachment only removes him from office. Unclear what would happen if he then ordered the FBI and military to arrest and imprison all Senators and just stayed put. Guess it would be an "official act."
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What if he’s impeached for something by the House and starts ordering Secret Service snipers (whom he preemptively pardons) to assassinate Senators who say they’ll vote against him at the Senate trial? What does anyone do about that?
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Trump's attorneys specifically were asked about the President's power to assassinate political opponents. The Court is saying that's cool. It's an invitation to political violence.
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Honestly you don't even have to assassinate that many Senators, just one or two and the rest fall in line. And now it's all nice and legal.
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Can we at least choose which ones? I have some thoughts
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What if he and the VP discuss bribing Senators? Official act! Kidnapping their kids until after the vote? Official act!
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Well, you see, if the rest of the senators see how bad it is that he's doing that and don't cower.. they could still remove him. Couldn't criminally prosecute him though. So no reason at all to not steal an election if all you care about is yourself!
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Kemalism with American characteristics
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Seems like until “official acts” become more clearly defined, nothing is beyond the scope
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Exactly. I mean they pretty much ended any sense there was a bright line, even as they shat on the Constitution and gave him an immunity that is now where in that document.
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We already know what “official acts “are - any act taken by a Republican, and I mean ANY. Unofficial acts are pretty much any action taken by Democrats. It’s Bush vs. Gore all the way down and yet one more reminder we should have become ungovernable then.
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Yes, but also, unless I’m misunderstanding, official acts that are within the clear purview of the President are now likely immune, regardless of the legality of the outcomes of those acts. Giving orders to the military is a clear purview of the Commander-in-Chief. (ctd)
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The immunity attaches to the act of giving orders to the military and therefore any downstream impacts of that act. IANAL, so I’d LOVE to be corrected on that.
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Eventually, leading to the President coercing Congress to pass an Enabling Law that allows the President to rule by decree.
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