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Ugh can someone please give me the tldr on Neil fucking Gaiman while I rewatch The Killing Type music video Amanda Palmer made about him

yes these allegations are real and credible, -yes and- his marriage to Amanda itself was a red flag. I went to one of her spoken word tours with a few friends who have known her personally: she made a racist joke, made jokes at the expense of the people who called her put on the racist joke...

and then tried to lead the crowd in an impromptu session of "forgive your rapist" and was trying to "come on!" everyone who booed and tried to sit it out. We all left vowing to not even play her ass on spotify

like this was part of the show! "everybody get up, we're going to do something". Total Ambush. Other people who saw that tour can probably vouch that those were the general beats. her vibe is *very* much an "anti-woke" "you have to be able to laugh at anything—so here's some fkd up shit!" vibe

Agreed, from everything I've seen and heard from former fans, Amanda is very much a fan of violating people and their boundaries when she finds it convenient for her.

excuse me...an impromptu session of WHAT?????

I was livid: like a big through line of the show was about a very abusive relationship she was in, dovetailed into vague implications of complicity that were honestly already losing the crowd, and finally at the climax of her story, was like, "everybody get up! Who's been assaulted in their life?"

once it became clear what she was trying to reach for SO MANY people sat down SO FAST, some were booing

oh shit, receipts: here she is talking about it amandapalmer.substack.com/p/ask-amanda...

ASK AMANDA #4: Two Questions about Rapeamandapalmer.substack.com ::Contains sensitive material, proceed mindfully::

I thought Palmer's cancellation came long ago but I guess she's still around. She's generally known as a massive piece of shit around here at least. "Here" being the general PNW music scenes between seattle and portland.

Am I the only one who found the extreme misogyny in his writing deeply troubling? That seemed to indicate him capable of terrible actions.

I'll say -yes but- I was definitely willing to consider it an artifact of his aesthetic and surroundings - former gifted British boy who grew up in, and never out of, the era of long grey trenchcoats and round sunglasses? His output was what i would expect from that demographic, below unique scorn

very much not an excuse, just, like, yeah, of course that would be the output, innocuous personal life or not

Ugh!

Two women, both younger than him by a lot, who were in otherwise consensual relationships, unwanted rough sex, multiple times, and he has attempted to discredit one by saying she has a mental illness there's no record of.

OH FUCKING HELL NO

That last bit puts that "divorcing a person with borderline personality" or whatever book on his good reads from when he was divorcing Amanda seem like less an accidentaly made public thing and more a targeted move to discredit her, huh?

Ugh, my disappointment is immeasurable. Are there any famous dudes who aren’t gonna end up being outed as shitty people? 😭

Rob Halford?

David Tennant is looking good too, but it seems someone I looked up to turns out to be a dick every dang week.

Does Joe Pera count? Alex Winter also seems like a mensch.

yo what the fuck??

Dammit. But this is why you always give the benefit of the doubt to the accuser, even when you don’t want it to be true. Because eventually it will be someone you really don’t want it to be true of and you can’t let that cloud your judgment.

This is something I wish people could wrap their heads around. We all know an abuser -- we just don't *know* that they're an abuser because they are *really good* at hiding it and discrediting their victims.

The way he tries to discredit women by claiming they have a mental illness regardless of their actual medical history is in keeping with his roots as a scientologist

Oh fuck no

What I found:

What a fucking evil fuck

My ex is a huge fan of Amanda. Been to her shows for *years* and met her backstage a couple times. I went with her in Detroit right before the pandemic, and it was just incredible. Even she was unsure what ultimately went down. This is the first I’ve seen or heard something concrete.

Accusations of sexual assault of women much, much, much younger than him.

She is also a horrible human being, I'm afraid

Multiple racial slurs on tape, "pay my band in hugs", "we forgive our rapists", + apparently a fucking Trail of Tears pun on one of her albums

On Amanda Palmer’s “White Feminism,” A.K.A. Bigotrygracelapointe.medium.com I loved the Dresden Dolls in high school. Hey, I’m also a Masshole, who loves feminism and that Goth aesthetic. I love the movie Cabaret…

Here is the article about it

Exclusive: Neil Gaiman accused of sexual assault - Tortoisewww.tortoisemedia.com Author denies allegations by two women who had been in consensual relationships with him.

Isn't Amanda Palmer a TERF?

NOT defending him whatsoever. I just stopped listening to the Dolls because of Amanda being TERFy and I would love to learn that's untrue.

Yes.

Palmer is not a TERF at all. Some of her material, especially her early work like “Sex Changes,” is transphobic, but she’s had gender-neutral bathrooms on at least one tour and hired a trans dude to brag about it for her. There are enough actual reasons to dislike her without muddying the waters.

And a racist

Damn, I'm glad I stopped listening to her music.

That was a great break-up video 😃

She Fucking NAILED IT

i love that album so much! this is her talking about some behind the music writing for that song btw

THE KILLING TYPE: vivisected | Amanda Palmer Blogblog.amandapalmer.net (The following blog was written August 8th for delivery to Kickstarter backers before anyone else. Here it is in its entirety.) hola comrades. the whole band just spent 3 CRAZY FUCKING days in oklahom...

oh no i just figured out the tldr

Damn And here I was thinking *I'm* the asshole for not liking how he sold Spawn characters to Marvel.

Which video is this?

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not good