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Regret to inform you that Stiglitz is NIMBY scum
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Not shadows! Not noise! My god if people can just build they’ll put brothels next to elementary schools!!
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“Haha sure housing is expensive and it’s objectively very hard to build anything that would improve the public welfare at all, but have you considered that externalities exist?”
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“when one person exerts an externality on another by exerting his freedom, he's constraining the freedom of others.” Such as by using spurious reasoning to block the production of housing that would give people the freedom to live closer to where they work, go to school, worship or socialize?
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i think he may overestimate the number of brothels being built these days
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Well if you let the YIMBYs have their way there’ll be brothels on every corner!
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Next to the taco trucks? Seems like an incredibly convenient, potentially lucrative synergy.
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But we just wanted taco trucks
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There are brothels on every corner. They’re called “bodywork places”and they aren’t next to elementary schools, they’re in the same building. And this is occurring in only the most seedy and undesirable neighborhoods like Chelsea and the Upper West Side.
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there are brothels everywhere for those with the eyes to see
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Honestly hard to miss them since brothels usually are new construction
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certainly not unaffordable condos but BROTHELS! brothels EVERYWHERE
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Certainly the number of legal ones, considering that's a thing in exactly one state and they still ban them from population centers and require them to be literally in the middle of the desert.
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Really cute conflating density with height. Amsterdam is calling.
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Also, brothels. And hashish. Man, Amsterdam knows what's up...
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Houston, a land of a great many HOAs, is so far from a Madmax Building Hellscape but it behooves everyone in the debate for various reasons to act that way. Mostly what we do here is pretty mild, all told
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Anyway, its no great feat to have reams of complaints from neighbors about other people's houses and property use choices
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They don’t lack problems. Checkmate
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I got into an eight month fight with my HOA over the height, material, and location of a fence on an empty property that I own. Stiglitz can get fucked on this one
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Stiglitz got a warm feeling inside reading about that
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"Building what you want on property you own is a unfreedom to people that don't own the property" Yeah no shit Sherlocke that's what it means to own something
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I just can’t get over the fact that his whole argument is nothing more than that externalities exist, as if Pigou didn’t write about that a hundred years ago. Can’t we say more on the subject at this point? Could we, I dunno, say something about the actual calculus of the real world?
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I mean we do build. I will give us that. But so many restrictions built into neighborhoods it is hard to take any of that stuff seriously.
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Right, it is not for nothing that we're better than most major US metros on this score, we build, but its not Mad Max, nothing is regulated build whatever land as is commonly portrayed. What we do isn't even that extreme
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I think it’s a common misperception partly because so many big cities don’t build much. And it always seems so exotic to say “no zoning”.
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I’m betting he talked to the people in Southampton who spent ten years objecting to the Ashby high rise.
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while if I prevent you from building, that's not constraining your liberty at all!
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What a superficial and unserious definition of freedom. It's perfectly possible to have a theory of freedom that doesn't define it as unrestricted choice, but these dudes need to spend a few years reading Hegel to have that thought coherently.
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I do not see a correlation between spending years reading Hegel and coherence of thought if I'm honest
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Nothing makes more sense in German
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Translate Hegel into his original Swabian
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He discovered the mysterious city of Houston
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Mythical hovel run by motorcycle warlords who eschew zoning
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What an incredibly frustrating and stupid answer. Your mind is broken if you go straight to noise and brothels. A person’s freedom to sue and appeal housing developments is an unfreedom to everyone else in the community.
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On the one hand you have homelessness and high costs of living. On the other, tall buildings cast a shadow and density might be noisy. Tough call
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This is where the “you already know this, but density isn’t noisy, combustion engines are noisy” comment has to be added in for clarity. 🤬
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I love America for the giving me the freedom to hate the problems and also the solutions.
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Homelessness, high costs of living, pollution, flooding from impermeable surface area, habitat destruction, ecosystem service destruction, biodiversity loss, and climate change.
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So what about all the negative externalities from sprawl? I guess those don't count.
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He probably talked to the Ashby high rise people in Houston, who are NIMBY-ist people on earth. Most of are perfectly fine with how our city works.
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I don't know who this guy is but H-TINE HOL IT DINE, if it wasn't so hot and also under the cruel yoke of the Texas GOP I'd probably still be there.
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This was revealed a few years ago when he lobbied against an apartment building near his home
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are any of those "challenges" worse than homelessness joe?
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He's falsely claiming that "house building deregulation" means "you can build anything, anywhere".
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I feel like bringing up brothels out of nowhere is an obtuse way of complaining that the poor could live in major population centers.
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What an insane strawman. "Do you support building more housing?" "I oppose totally unfettered building with no zoning or regulations." Also, does he actually think *zoning* is what bans sex work in the US? ZONING?? He's either an idiot or flagrantly making bad faith arguments.