GOLIKEHELLMACHINE: i deleted both those posts about trump allegedly raping a teenager at epstein’s place because i genuinely can’t tell exactly what the new news is. i *think* it’s that unsealed records contain messages that corroborate the allegations, but i cannot find a piece of trustworthy reporting explaining it

i deleted both those posts about trump allegedly raping a teenager at epstein’s place because i genuinely can’t tell exactly what the new news is. i *think* it’s that unsealed records contain messages that corroborate the allegations, but i cannot find a piece of trustworthy reporting explaining it

I think the “new news” is the actual, horrific, primary document and not, “Ho hum Trump is a pedo sex criminal.”

Yeah, it's that FOIA got the actual docs/ details that are a lot worse than the relatively bare bones reporting when the case was filed.

I don't think the docs being passed around are from the recent release, though. They are old. I have not seen anything to indicate that there are new docs.

Huh, ok!

Newspapers of record too busy interviewing gerentologists rn

Sucks being more intellectually honest than the opposition but here we are.

Good choice. He’s almost certainly guilty but no clear evidence yet. Better to keep the powder dry until then.

Yeah, the guy is scum and there's little I wouldn't believe, but the political mood in the country is nearing hysteria right now and I don't think full on blue-anon stuff is helpful. Thanks for the rationality and deep breaths!

Those records are redacted so I think there’s very little chance that we’d get to see what he did, unless he’s indicted.

It doesn't matter anyway. His rapiness is baked in at this point. The people who like him don't care about that shit. All rape accusers are lying bitches, etc.

i think “raping a 13 year old” is in a different category than “raping his wife” and “raping an author”, but we’re talking degrees, not really differences in kind, i guess

"live boy or a dead girl" probably still holds for the GOP.

I'd agree. There's a reason why child predators get significantly more abused and brutalized by inmates than those who prey only on adults.

Oh it's absolutely seen as far worse! It is! I'm just saying the people who don't want to believe it will pretend they don't believe it. Same as it ever was.

There are also many who have bought the wild narrative that Trump is the champion of sex-trafficked children etc. because that’s what the vibes in their media/social circles say. If Trump’s actual attitudes and conduct vis-a-vis children pierced through a little, that could maybe shift some people?

Obviously many will just never believe it but many many people are just wildly uninformed and pick up vibes and hearsay from the ether

You'd hope. But I think the kinds of people who believe THAT sort of thing are hopelessly lost. Irredeemable. You could tell them Biden eats kids. (Some of them literally think that!)

TBH I do think Biden could pull quite a few people off if he called Trump a kidfucker on live TV. Like, we all know Biden curses in private, if anything would be appropriate for his first time cursing in public, it would be this.

Not when they're 13 and the rapist is a famous 60 year old billionaire* *alleged billionaire

Over at the bad place: "Prior to marrying Melania in January 2005, Trump was calling Jeffrey Epstein in 2004 on the regular." Notes are included. x . com/MailePRMedia/status/1807937099024544177

look if Joe Biden isn't gonna do the R9X thing maybe he could get the NSA to break into his phone

The newly unsealed records were of the lawyers tanking the case against Epstein by attacking his victims in court. I haven't read through the 150 pages, but I also haven't seen a screenshot from them to link the two.

I remember this from before the 2016 election and I have a vague memory of later learning that it was less credible than I would have liked.

I honestly wonder if those details would hurt him that much at the ballot box anyway. "Yes he's a r*pist but he's ours"

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