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I'm not being a dick here I can also say with statistical certainty that certain heavy caliber guns with a spin chamber, when spun, will spin with the single bullet on the bottom, with three empty chambers before it. I'm still not playing Russian Roulette with that information.
I can say with statistical certainty that who I vote for at the presidential level will not change any political outcomes.
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I have to say, the efforts of the Republican Party in the US to convince left-wing voters that voting doesn’t matter have been astonishingly successful. The number of people on here who say their vote doesn’t make any difference . . . so autocracy it is, I guess?
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It's not just that, and I say that strongly for those outside the United States. We, in this country, have had historically AND TO THIS DAY a very very real problem with voter suppression. So much so that North Carolina has not been considered a democracy for over a decade I think. So the point
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of people feeling like their vote doesn't matter, isn't a feeling or propaganda, but has been true. Many voters who are suburban and white have never experienced this or a voting line where they had to stand in the hot sun where they cannot access water all day to cast a vote.
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It's not to say the GOP doesn't hold the popular vote in some areas, they do. But by and large they have won through fuckery in maaaaany places
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i firmly believe that the GOP is entirely cooked, demographically. They will continue to utilize gerrymandering, disenfranchisement, judicial fuckery, youth indoctrination, and ultimately violence in their death throes.
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i think this is precisely why we're seeing such out of pocket politics from the right. this is their do or die moment to seize an enduring minoritarian grasp on power. (and maybe just the subconscious anxiety of a dying world, as well).
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I forget the name of the book but I recall here in the UK a political scientist who wrote a book that argues just this. That right wing politics has run out of anything they can deliver, is intellectually bankrupt, and all they have left to hold power are the things you've just enumerated.
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And also by driving out people who would vote against them either actively or passively through lack of jobs. The average age where I live is 34. The average age in the county where my dad lives is 45.
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Hadn't considered that aspect but so true
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You guys need proportional representation so badly.
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The South isn't red, it's suppressed.
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Oh I realize that, it actually makes the news over here. But I also think there’s an element (and it’s in Ireland too), that believes because the votes mass around the centre, that there’s something wrong with the system, when it’s just a fact that many people just aren’t very progressive.
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My dad mentioned to me that he has never in his entire life waited in line to vote. I have several times: The times I lived in a Black neighborhood. The times I lived in a college campus neighborhood. 2020.
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I’ve seen the maps with insane boundary lines too. It’s an extraordinary level of social engineering.
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It's not just social engineering. It's also pure lawlessness. Ohio voted to amend our constitution to create a bipartisan redistricting process. The Republicans held close-door secret meetings, drew up an illegal map, ran out the clock on court orders to redo it and then used it anyway.
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and the judges have basically gone 🤷‍♀️ about it, far as i know.
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Yeah, I mean Ireland has its own screwed up approach to politics (is there one that isn’t?), but your Republicans are on a different level of poison.
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So, now you're pointing at my state, and the only real rebuttal I have is: it's complicated. Yes, we're ridiculously gerrymandered to render every federal house race save 1 completely uncompetitive. The state legislature is even worse. For statewide races, we're still kinda purple-ish.
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Yeah I was speaking broadly but outside observers on democracy have said, etc.
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I know, and they're not entirely wrong. Our state is broken and the legislature is 100% to blame.
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The thing I really "love" about this is the fact that because every state has its own way of doing things, international observers won't even consider observing US elections. Which is, of course, a feature to the anti-democracy jerks.
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Some people seem to think the “best path” is having an actual civil war, as if we shouldn’t consider any path that saves lives and minimizes harm while achieving goals first.
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Those are people who do not understand on a very real adult level what death is.
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The levels of death and destruction in a modern American civil war would be mind- breaking.
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Most people eager for this don’t understand how hard it would become to get medicine, to get food and drinkable water, how bad conditions would get. Civil war would be a protracted thing out of necessity, not a first choice.
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It’s also such a right-wing sentiment that justifies letting bad shit happen because my actions alone can’t fix them. “I can say with statistical certainty that my amount of energy use will not change global warming”
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I don’t understand the initial post There are stark differences between Biden & Trump, and the DNC and GOP Biden is far from perfect but is somewhat of a decent guy Trump? He’s light years from even being a somewhat decent person
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I believe that they're saying no matter how they vote, the outcome won't be changed due to where they live. IE: I live in California, which will go to Biden. And with the electorial college it's a winner take all.
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Ah, that makes more sense I live in Oregon which is solidly safe for Biden and I’m still going to vote for Biden and have fingers crossed he wins, even though I’m not a big fan of his
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Just blocked that person because, eff them. That attitude drives me mental.