I started putting a checkmark next to the ones that fit me but then realised it would be easier to just cross out the ones that didn't.
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My understanding is that it was first observed in people with ADHD and thus many mental health professionals still believe it's exclusive to people who have ADHD.
My understanding is also that these professionals are wrong.
It was hilarious though - teacher flat out told everyone "didn't try to self diagnose - almost all of you do not have these". I ticked almost every box. 11 years later in therapy: "yeah.... You have all of these."
Me: shocked Pikachu face
Honestly I'm not the fond of the concept of Giftedness, I've always felt like it's about valuing certain skills over others equally important skills (...which I largely lack lol)
I think I’ve got all the gifted ones, but I’ve never felt so at home as I did in gifted classes. The teachers were trained differently than even the ones in honors classes at a magnet high school I tried for a year and a half. There was a wide range of skills in my cohorts, but ymmv.
We didn't really have gifted classes in the 90s in Spain. The school counsellor had me do an IQ test (which wasn't even for my age group but for kids 2 years older), was like 'huh, this kid seems gifted. We better not tell them or it'll get to their head!' and that was it.
We don't really have those here either except for wealthy peeps
Glad i was never put there, i was a Mensa member for a couple of years, which instilled in me that the worth of intelligence might be highly overrated
I am really lucky the program existed and my parents were told how to get me into it. It was imperfect, even after parish wide testing there weren’t enough Black kids in it, but it was really good for me and lots of others. It was also hard to get kicked out- you had to get below a C average a while
So there were plenty of kids who were “underachievers,” and probably many undiagnosed ADHD as well as undiagnosed autistic, but I don’t remember teachers being jerks about it. They’d trained to teach weird, smart kids, and that’s a spectrum.
My understanding is 'gifted' started as a euphemism for a pattern they spotted where certain kids would either drop out or fail classes a lot while clearly understanding the subjects or even testing as ahead of their peers. So they started gifted or TaG programs that tried to keep them in school
Maybe. In my elementary school GATE (gifted and talented education) was basically for kids that tested high on tests or otherwise were identified by their teachers as exceptionally smart. My very high achieving siblings were in it. They had zero indication of dropping out or failing.
Interesting, did a quick search lest I accidentally deceive anyone. Looks like it didn't actually start out just because the concerns raised in the 1972 Marland report like I thought. Looks like there's a heavy amount of Cold War stuff in its origins too.
So...I've got a brother diagnosed as high-functioning autistic (has a BA and an MA but can't hold a job) and a son with diagnosed ADHD.
And I was on G&T tracks all through ES-JH-HS.
So I've got items in all three but no consistent "yep this is me" and...not really sure what that means.
It might be helpful to google "Broad Autism Phenotype". Essentially, a lot of the time family members of someone with autism will have a mild form of some of the symptoms without really qualifying for a diagnosis. Not sure if the same thing happens with ADHD.
Might also be useful to read up on Mirroring, especially in the case of someone you've lived with for a long time.
Like with all things psychology-related, there can be independent and co-occurrent things going on. Could also be confirmation bias.
brains, amirite?
For the purposes of this exercise, I would classify this Venn diagram as: For Entertainment Purposes Only.
I think most people have some-to-many of these and their impact can be highly contextual. I feel it's definitely a YMMV type of thing.
Yup, totally me once those two things are crossed out.
And can be a bit hit and miss with emergencies, too.
Sometimes it's all on, and sometimes it's freeze!
