Elizabeth Spiers: The Republican line now is that the shooting was caused by Dems saying Trump is a threat to democracy, and they’re doing that because it’s a big and true thing they want Dems to stop saying.

The Republican line now is that the shooting was caused by Dems saying Trump is a threat to democracy, and they’re doing that because it’s a big and true thing they want Dems to stop saying.

Any Dem who falls for it = ref being successfully worked

really depressing to see how many of them will, not because they don’t believe it anymore, but because they’ve decided they can live with Trump 2.0 and don’t want to say anything anyone will be upset about

What I got from that Biden address is that he's really going to go down that path. This is how the assassination attempt has fucked us, not any "sympathy vote" bullshit

And only a few days after that Detroit speech where he was really taking it to him in a way that was gonna do damage

Give it a week. Trump doesn’t make it through the convention without saying something inflammatory.

Even 2-3 days.

I don't think it was a coincidence that all his examples of political violence were from the right. Raising the salience of violent rhetoric and its harms doesn't help Republicans because most people can put two and two together.

This. Even if it turns out to be too subtle, it reassured me that he and his team have no intention of being pacifists.

The concerns that they'd try to find examples of left-wing violence for “balance” were just false.

What the fuck made you think that? Biden made a list of republican violence. That wasn’t a coincidence.

There's a difference between listing Republican violence and hammering that Trump represents a threat to Democracy. One says "this is bad" and the other says "HE is bad" and it's the latter that I expect he's going to drop. Which is the important one to hit. I'll be glad to be proven wrong.

Frankly, all he has to do is list Trump's positions and repeat Trump’s own statements, which I still expect him to do.

Biden has not backed down from saying Trump is a threat to democracy. www.cbsnews.com/video/biden-...

Biden defends calling Trump a threat to democracy, reacts to JD Vance as VP pickwww.cbsnews.com President Biden defended calling former President Donald Trump a threat to democracy in a new TV interview that aired Monday night. Mr. Biden also reacted to Trump's vice presidential pick, Ohio Sen. ...

We already have "Morning Joe" canceled for today. They're already self-censoring (self-gelding) because maybe talking about all his bad stuff might cause someone to shoot at him.

maybe we could start GFM to take cadavers and appropriate their spines for weak-bladdered Dems

What was that statement again? If they go low, we go high. Thank you, Michelle Obama, for finding a way to cope with this kind of contempt. www.independent.co.uk/life-style/m...

Michelle Obama explains her catchphrase ‘When they go low, we go high’www.independent.co.uk The author appeared on ‘The Late Show’ with Stephen Colbert

[Narrator] It worked.

As opposed to right-wingers like the Project 2025 guy saying things like "We are in the process of the second American revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left lets it."

Trump *does* want to stop democracy. Very key point of fact here.

He is the poison that keeps dripping into our entire system.

He's what gets in only after the system is sufficiently poisoned

"Liberal media painted a target on Trump by making him out to be an authoritarian, like when they reported on the time he made this post about how he wanted to terminate the Constitution! Or when he told Hannity during an interview that he wanted to be a dictator! Or when..."

Trump is pretty incomprehensible at the best of times, but I think the most charitable reading of that statement is him saying the "fraud" committed against him resulted in the things you underlined. Of course there are many other examples without this issue.

That's the way he tried to spin it when asked later. But the sentence immediately before it suggested undoing the 2020 election results in a way that goes directly against procedures written in the Constitution.

Thing is it was a Republican that shot him so if the Dem's accurate message about Trump has penetrated that demographic to such a degree Republicans really are in trouble.

I agree: the goal is to reduce resistance bsky.app/profile/nste...

“Democrats need to lower the temperature” is a close relative of “the revolution will remain bloodless if liberals allow it to be” from Heritage Foundation. The message is: stop resisting, stop talking loudly about how we are ending democracy, or face dire consequences”

1) Every day matters at this point, so every day Democrats voluntarily stop telling everyone Trump is an authoritarian fascist is a terrible decision 2) I also tend to think this is correct, which exacerbates the decision to forgo campaigning for a few days

They're doing this because the guy shot him seems to be a cishet, white Republican too, so this is the only angle they've got. "The arsonist burnt his fingers because you all keep saying he's starting a fire."

And this spin will have a shelf life half as long as “Biden is Old”. Trump is going to blow it out the water on Thursday with his Beer Hall…err…RNC speech.

Even when he was shot by a Republican who only did it because he's an Epstein-connected pedophilic rapist?

Dems are utterly incompetent in dealing with this new political/media landscape. Biden's speech was aimed at centrist pundits and thus did exactly what R's wanted. He could have done same while acknowledging the right's violent rhetoric boomeranged and is thus a threat to all.

The Republicans say it too.

Seems the democrats are bending over backwards to agree

A Republican who takes his marching orders from Democrats, so say delusional Republicans. Crooks was a conservative Republican lover of guns. Republicans would put no restrictions on Crooks and his ability to get guns if he came back to life. Crooks watched gun videos (Demolition Ranch) not MSNBC.

I saw this being stated immediately by regular people. Like so many things that my Trump-loving acquaintances say, I just don't understand. (and I realize they also don't understand much that I say, either)

TRUTH BE TOLD! Maybe they should focus on that Robinson man running for PA governor cause he said ‘some folks need killing’ and then……bullets when flying at that trump rally!

North Carolina. And him winning would be absolutely terrifying. He’s anti-lgbt, misogynistic and anyi-Semitic to a degree that rivals Trump. I think he may actually be worse than Trump. He’s also leading in the polls right now

Maybe he should stop being a threat to Democracy then? I don't know what else you'd call a political candidate who has sworn to not accept the results of an election he doesn't win.

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louder for everyone in the back

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