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i'm fuckin dying
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the wildest thing to me here is that i don't think it's just drawing random easter-probable dates from its training set bc these dates are all actually sundays in 2024. really impressive how specifically wrong it is
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extremely cool that my very fav band @themountaingoats.bsky.social has reskeeted this, extremely uncool that it has escaped containment and i am getting my least fav response to AI fuckups from AI fans, which is "oh, this is corrected in the latest version of chatgpt that you have to pay for"
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Oof sorry to draw the stans into yr mentions though
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haha no worries it had already started!!!
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The Mountain Goats AND calling out AI’s bullshit in the same thread seems like a pretty cool niche Venn Diagram of ‘things some of us like’ that I am pleasantly surprised by.
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Meanwhile my longsuffering Eastern Orthodox kid has another two weeks to wait for his Easter basket
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I was just thinking "this isn't even the Eastern Orthodox date by accident"
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it would be worth it if you wrote a song about everything that happened here today
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$20 a month to find out the date of Easter in 2024, what a bargain.
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Love to pay money for the non stupid computer brain
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The closest matches in its training set are going to be "easter Sunday is April (x)" from previous years, and it doesn't actually know things
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right, that's what i'm saying, i expected it to just pull random late march and april dates from instances of "easter sunday is [date]" in its training set, but all the answers it's giving me for "when is easter 2024" are plausible but incorrect SUNDAYS in 2024, so something more is going on here
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I think this is one of those places where the fancy autocomplete mental model underestimates how fancy it is. There must be some real statistical sense in which the next token is more likely to be be a date which other sources have referred to as a Sunday
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Well, yes, "fancy autocomplete" sells it quite a bit short. It's more like an extremely sophisticated flow chart that people keep infuriatingly anthropomorphizing
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It’s never going to get it right if its date for the paschal full moon is off by 12 days. (Bede and everyone else involved in perfecting the computus wept)
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Somewhere it got bad information about ecclesiastical lunar calculations and refuses to let go.
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In case anyone is wondering “is it also wrong in exactly the same way about Passover? Oh yes, absolutely.
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Can it get even more wrong? Of course.
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It should also be obvious that the first Sunday after some particular date cannot be 8 days later!
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Maybe its starting point was to put Easter in April from past experience, but some nanny overlay then kicked in to make it be a Sunday in April?
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this only affirms my belief that what AI-as-oracle people want is simply google that speaks in complete sentences, and whether or not it is a liar is irrelevant
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google's AI was at least right!
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"Gentlemen, what I am proposing is simple: create an Ask Jeeves that sucks, and make it dump Agent Orange on a forest every time you use it"
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a computer that can't do math? they said it would be impossible to build. we proved them wrong
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we made a rock that can think. then we told it to stop
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Still true bsky.app/profile/phyp...
I've said this several times but it is worth repeating: You don't ask an LLM something, you are giving it a prompt. You don't get back an answer, you get plausible sounding text. Using the incorrect words for what they do allows the people peddling the technology to get away with ridiculous claims.
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Douglas Adams had this shit dead to rights there's a bit in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books where a typo in the eponymous Guide made it sound like the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal was a local delicacy instead of a ferocious monster, resulting in multiple fatalities
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...the publisher was sued, but won the case, the judge arguing that it wasn't the info that was fallacious, but reality itself
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I always think of the bit in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency where they have a best selling decision-making software where the big feature is instead of giving it the facts and getting a decision, you give it a decision and it justifies it for you
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"Make a very good meal for visiting tourists" instead of "...of visiting tourists."
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Can it also be promoted by the most insufferable people imaginable?
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An Ask Jeeves that sucks? That's Ask Jeeves!
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Regular Ask Jeeves doesn't worsen the climate enough.
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That's cause it's using Retrieval Augmented Generation. It first searches for relevant content and then feeds that into its generative AI before it gives you an answer. This helps ground and minimise hallucination.
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How about for something factual it doesn't use generation or an algorithm and just give you the right fucking answer?
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Google is typically good at floating dates like this - I imagine it’s because they have a popular calendar app? Like, does google have a datum stored somewhere that says “Easter Sunday = 3/31/24” that it can regurgitate?
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That’s a great word for it. It frequently feels like coming in halfway through a game of Mao - the inputs and outputs are visible, but they don’t always seem related.
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honestly it's the same vibe as SEO, an entire industry built around trying to figure out what's going inside the all-important black box of google search
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Basically, without access to the exact training data and weights, it's impossible to judge exactly what it's doing and why - which is of course the whole point of keeping them secret