If you look at the average trend across countries, it’s not that the genders are dividing so much as that women are becoming more liberal. Trend for men is basically flat since 2000 in US and Germany, and men actually becoming more liberal in UK, just not as fast as women. www.ft.com/content/29fd...
Pandemic actually ruined a bunch of data time series. (Sub topic of: we will actually never have enough data to prove much of anything, but still good to look.)
Yeh but he's explained why there's the disparity... he didn't use the dataset with the 2022 change as Traina says, the data they are showing is sampled and calculated differently. It's not unusual for surveys not intended for that purpose not to replicate. x.com/jburnmurdoch...
It's also nuts to expect a journalist should go through explaining why different results might occur in every other differently compiled dataset in a piece of journalism intended for the general public. I guess that would spoil the fun of the dunkers too.
What a shocker that somebody with this background might actually know what they’re talking about
But we must dunk on Numbers Guys, even if we have to resort to using other Numbers Guys
So, it's false for the US, it's false for Germany, the data for the UK shows young men and young women both left-shifting but young women just doing so more... this really is just about South Korea, isn't it? bsky.app/profile/alon...
Plus how sampling is impacted by people not answering phones, numbers not corresponding to locatiojs & some groups organizing to try & skew polling results.Plus coverage rarely mention, let alone analyze, how methodology like a questions phrasing can alter what results appear to say.
I really don't understand the discussion around this chart. In what sense is it a dunk? If we take Traina's chart at face value, how does it not still suggest a widening gap? Why are people reacting to the tweet as if it said anything beyond "here's a data trend that may be revealing?"
If you ask me, whenever they start trying to push social divides it means they know they're fucking up big time. Love your neighbor nomatter what the media says. Trust a person in your community (friend, neighbor, coworker) more than you do the media. I'm not saying blindly follow, but trust.
Side note. You're community member should trust you too. If you're spitting truth in service of a better world, as long as you're consistent they may very well believe you too. My uncle taught me the truest words I've ever heard. Mean what you say and say what you mean. It's solid advice. Trust me.
Just curious. Did anyone try a replication with the world values survey? You may be able to do similar analysis with the ISSP data. I would do it myself if I don’t have 300+ exams to grade.
