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Thank you for sharing this.
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I wonder why he doesn't have much to say about *Russia's* "draconian conscription policies" and reliance on *Iran and North Korea* for materiel.
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I didn't read the article but I did do a Ctrl+F on NATO and it didn't come up except in the word "senator". I mean this isn't exactly an argument I'm putting any particular weight on but it's just interesting it never came up.
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Vance is 1. funded/employed by Peter Thiel, who openly prefers authoritarianism to democracy and 2. pins his ambitions on trump, who is employed by Putin & is himself te despot these schmucks are currently backing
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This guy is from the political faction that salivates over spending $5 BIL so that 500 immigrants will drown in the Rio Grande
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It’s good someone translated it from Russian for him before the NYT published it.
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When the US mainstream first sided with Ukraine, I thought: Cleek’s law requires the GOP to oppose Ukraine. But the personal investment in Putin is wild, too: my own MAGA parents admire him. It’s axiomatic. Putin can’t lose; Biden & NATO can’t win. Plus, they’ll get to say Biden “lost” Ukraine.
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Apparently "draconian" means drafting people down to age 25? So he lost me in the second paragraph.
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Draconian really means thugs on the street who paid thousands of dollars to have jobs as recruiters, grabbing any ambulatory man they find in public, stuffing them in to a van, and forcibly transporting them to the front. Also surrounding villages with cop cars and hauling away all the men.
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You have proof of this that isn’t just Russian propaganda?
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Many, many videos of people being dragged off the streets over a long period of time. Videos put out by the UA government of men trying to flee the country being apprehended and forcibly conscripted. They’re real.
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This does not apply to the kids of the rich, who already fled the country long ago. Their bare backsides are soaking up the sun on the Mediterranean beaches of Spain and France. Or they're smoking cigs and chatting up the birds in London cafes.
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He's worse than an appeaser. He's in on it.
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The fact that the NYT let an obvious dope and charlatan like Vance put a drop of ink in their journal should be an unmitigated embarrassment that gets people fired. And yet…
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Why don't we just hand over Taiwan while we are add it; abandon Isreal, since Iran is bigger; and just surrender a zone of inflience to every major power rival.
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I’m sure Vance is fine with selling out Taiwan. Israel is more complicated because of the evangelical obsession with it.
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Well they took his slogan he used to keep us out of WWII.
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And the NYT is right there promoting it. You’d think their pro-Hitler pieces from the 1930s would give them pause.
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I suddenly get the appeasement analogy that is in Lord of the Rings.
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If we actually give up on Ukraine and invite Putin to waltz farther in to Europe, and we are pretty damn close already, I don't think I could ever forgive our country.
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J D Vance, Coward Elegy - in book shops now.
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"What would LeFou do?"
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So naturally the New York fucking Times is giving it a platform.
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MAGA likes to wrap itself in the iconography the Founding Fathers/Revolution. Vance might reflect that applying his logic, well-the American Revolution was a lost cause. So why bother? Oh, we got some help from a friendly superpower - France. He can wear his red Tory MAGA hat and stand with his king
I'm old enough to remember when Republicans used "appeaser" as a derogatory word for Democrats. The turnaround in party loyalty never cease to amaze.
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MegaCorp infotainment media hacks have their scripts eh? Meanwhile in the real world: Ukrainian victory is the only path forward.