Dr. Tessa Fisher: If that sounds like a lot of work, it very much is--a successful revolution takes an enormous amount of effort and coordination to pull off!

[type of guy who can’t manage a 20 person discord without it imploding into petty feuds voice]: i am going to lead a revolution of the workers

the worst dudes online are the guys who are like “the time for electoral politics is over, it’s time for guillotines.” yeah bud i’m sure you’ll stop posting and get the ball rolling on the guillotines any minute now.

I really hate it when some random leftist wants to start a revolution while expecting someone else to do the whole work for them. If you're going to revolt, at least give people some semblance of a plan.

Yeah, exactly--like, I'm open to revolution! *If* you've got a plan for how you intend to replace the existing system, an idea of what you'd like to replace it with, & a plan to develop dual-power logistics and governing systems to minimize civilian casualties from deprivation during said revolution

If that sounds like a lot of work, it very much is--a successful revolution takes an enormous amount of effort and coordination to pull off!

they hate the military and security services too, one or both of which you need to win a revolution also reject working with dems cuz “they wont listen something something same as republicans” but it’s a far easier lift to turn the party into a maoist party than to start a protracted people’s war

anyone saying they're going to start a revolution on *public social media* is too dumb to actually lead a revolution

People had better figure out digital hygiene before next January. It's not going to be your neighbor ratting you out to the Stasi, it's going to be you doing it to yourself.

i eman i think it’s very unlikely trump wins. every gop state party is bankrupt and trumps going to embezzle every dollar he raises to pay his legal bills. imo the polls will increasingly reflect this in the coming months

True. Plus, Biden has been reaping tons of cash after his debate faux pas, giving him a bit of an edge. What matters is that we do our part to turn out the vote while hoping for the best no matter how dark things currently are.

I have no idea, and I'm definitely not a doomer. I plan to just keep doing what I can to help others and build community, because we're going to need that either way.

that’s awesome to hear, ultimately it’s all we can reasonably do and it matters

I would love to build community. Maybe it's finally time.

Incumbency+gotv advantage will make a difference

christ i hope you're right. the polls are always so fucking tight. I can believe they're off, but it doesn't exactly help things. my concern is not just losing outright but SCOTUS has made it clear they WILL just install him on the flimsiest premise by these assholes and their lawsuits.

They need the military and they dont have it to do any kind of extra legal maneuvers like that. If its a tight race maybe but i really do not think it’ll be a tight race. Imo a senator from nc and texas are both very possible

and if that happens-- I'm not promoting it, but yeah, I think there's going to be civil war in some form or other. Even if Biden just meekly steps down. Gore never should have fucking conceded. Goddamn it all to hell.

Don’t worry about it, I was on the front page of the newspaper….

Sure, I’m hosed from that perspective too but we’re both farther down the gulag list than people openly musing about or threatening violent revolution on public social media. (I didn’t look at your profile - if you’re doing that, don’t.)

So like on the political enemies scale, i tend not to post armed insurrection stuff. But i tend to remind alt right types there are in fact armed leftists…

And yet so many people love to go with, "the system is irreparably broken, voting is worthless, there's nothing we can do" as if what their next steps would then have to be aren't obvious. (The next step, obviously, is just whine loudly about it online.)

Nihilistic doomerism helps no one but the far right.

trying to coin the term south park leftists for these people

complete with their underpants gnomes theory of revolution

Oh, I like that.

Yeah. People really don't like being told, "Well, I guess I'll see you at the barricades" in response to that kind of nihilistic navel-gazing.

"meet me at the barricades" is a great title for an apocalyptic romance novel though

some people are very committed to arguing themselves into being useless

These leftists just aren't very pragmatic, are they?

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