the worst dudes online are the guys who are like “the time for electoral politics is over, it’s time for guillotines.” yeah bud i’m sure you’ll stop posting and get the ball rolling on the guillotines any minute now.
I bring this up over and over again but the Paris Communards burned the guillotines in effigy understanding they represented not class struggle but tyranny
turns out when your movement is relying on sinking prison barges to mass kill Enemies (families) you arent do so deter poggers by the workers.
building out physical and social infrastructure used to kill The Bad Ones will never stop at just The Bad Ones
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One thing about guillotines is that you can only use them when your faction controls the area for long enough to indulge in construction projects.
The level of security required to use them seems to sort of contradict the claimed necessity of using them.
Also, they're terrible for threats.
I really hate it when some random leftist wants to start a revolution while expecting someone else to do the whole work for them. If you're going to revolt, at least give people some semblance of a plan.
Yeah, exactly--like, I'm open to revolution! *If* you've got a plan for how you intend to replace the existing system, an idea of what you'd like to replace it with, & a plan to develop dual-power logistics and governing systems to minimize civilian casualties from deprivation during said revolution
they hate the military and security services too, one or both of which you need to win a revolution
also reject working with dems cuz “they wont listen something something same as republicans” but it’s a far easier lift to turn the party into a maoist party than to start a protracted people’s war
People had better figure out digital hygiene before next January. It's not going to be your neighbor ratting you out to the Stasi, it's going to be you doing it to yourself.
And yet so many people love to go with, "the system is irreparably broken, voting is worthless, there's nothing we can do" as if what their next steps would then have to be aren't obvious.
(The next step, obviously, is just whine loudly about it online.)
I can only get behind an actual revolution if there's a solid plan in place that would help guarantee success with minimal bloodshed. Fending off the far right requires resources and manpower that have to be managed effectively.
That;'s what's so scary about right now-these fuckers DO have a plan.
I submit that most of its stances are WILDLY unpopular and all US people really, really need to understand what's being planned. Now.
They’re all like “voting is useless! You have to organize and revolt!” If you won’t even get off your ass for 30 seconds to tick a box for harm reduction, I have no faith you’re ever gonna start a real revolution. It takes a lot more work than voting does & sensible folks know you can do both.
right. like if you can’t see the strategic value in a dem in the executive for your revolutionary project i don’t trust your strategy to wage a revolution yet alone win one
Right. One must think about things like “minimizing casualties” if one wants any kind of moral high ground, or broad public support. No one backs a revolution that’s killing their children with famine, drug shortages, etc by breaking existing supply chains and offering no replacement options.
The reality is, societal change is always either horrifyingly violent and ugly with a lot of collateral damage, or excruciatingly boring and unglamorous. There’s no reality where actual real-life revolutionaries get the glory and the girl and ride off into the sunset as utopia cheers.
even for less militant actions it’s important! the 1930’s teamster strikes in Minneapolis were so effective because they spent a lot of time and energy trying to ensure most people’s lives weren’t too disrupted and to the extent they were, alternatives were set up to satisfy them
Absolutely! And less militancy is preferable, honestly. Militant action means more people die, often including non-combatants. If we want revolution to be anything more than purely theoretical, we have to be prepared to grapple with the consequences.
I know it’s pointless, but I’m begging these idiots to look at what happened to many folks in the vanguard of leftist revolutions in the 20th century. They end up rotting in prison or dead because someone has to take the hit when “utopia” falls on its ass.
“The tip of the spear is where the action is. It attracts the High Speed/Low Drag types, but no one talks about how that’s the part of the spear that breaks most often.”—Tom Clancy, Rainbow Six
These folks remind me of the ones who think they can start a general worker’s strike in the U.S. with no planning (or acknowledgment that the laws here mean a lot of people would lose their jobs), only vibes.
They’re probably some of the same folks, actually.
I would really like just ONE of these mfs to have an idea of what to about oh say....medicine and healthcare.
Also fellas, whacha gonna do about FOOD huh?
