James Felix Black: Resilience is another big one. Gettin’ back up on that horse, &c. Dude coded, also extremely valuable.

very honestly coming around to the view that the paradigm of non-toxic, community-driven masculinity we need can be shorthanded by "dudes rock"

It's fun to slag on teenage boys but IMO they're not so much ideologically right-wing as they are desperate for the approval and mentorship of older dudes a lot of the time, and we are letting them down on that score (either by trying to indoctrinate them or not interacting with them at all).

curiosity, perseverence, fellowship, sprawl: it's all there!

Resilience is another big one. Gettin’ back up on that horse, &c. Dude coded, also extremely valuable.

I see you had perseverance already. I need coffee.

no this is a very "dudes rock" editing process

your buddy coming in to build a possibly-superfluous tower on your sandcastle is dudes rock

What is this “dudes rock” discussed in the thread? It just produces a mental image of Jack black being silly which I suspect from the description isn’t really all that off, conceptually, but is a very incomplete description

I need to start a thread of what I think are good examples

This is a screenshot from the bad site from a while back

offering to let your neighbor borrow a weird tool you have when you see they could use it (post digger, blade sharpener, jaw saw). Bonus points if you offer to do it yourself.

Good point. But I’m still gonna go get coffee.

yeah maybe grit or resilience is a better word than perseverence?

I like grit because it also connotes character, like doing the right thing instead of the easier shortcut.

Same. All three actually have slightly different valences.

also gets us away from the Mars Rover thing, which is both plus and minus

Mars Rover is extremely, indeed almost paradigmatically, dudes rock.

A lot of the good space programs are. Voyager, Hubble. Apollo was I think on the hubristic side.

How dudes rock is something? How many fist bumps went into the conception and execution? It’s not a bad initial metric.

Angela Duckworth’s book on grit is interesting, kind of a combination of conscientiousness and perseverance. This is reminding me that I’ve been meaning to do a dive into this stuff, feels like there’s been a lot of research in this area since I last took psych 20 years ago.

Gumption, imo.

remember when "grit" was the exclusive domain of grifters?

no one said pigheadedness

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