Post

Avatar
Loving the right wing “thinkers” pivoting to “Sunak lost because - if anything - he was TOO centrist”
Avatar
Of course the titanic mind of Lord Frost got in first
Avatar
I will say, charitably, that "winning from the centre" hasn't been tried for a while.
Avatar
I mean it’s all comparative but Johnson, the Tory right’s lost prince, was undoubtedly way closer to the centre than Sunak
Avatar
Johnson was way closer to anything that would be of benefit to him personally. The very definition of an opportunist.
Avatar
Well, yes, sure, I have no doubt that this is his personality. But it is undoubtedly true that what he offered the country was closer to the centre than what Sunak is offering.
Avatar
Yeah, agreed, although I suspect his winningest argument was "vote for me and we'll shut up about Brexit"
Avatar
One of the most centre ground arguments it was possible to have, outpolling "puppies are cute" and "hearing your baby cry at 2am is crap"
Avatar
Sure, but what benefitted him was winning. So he had a whole load of mainstream-appeal policies in there along with the right-wing stuff.
Avatar
They basically want someone who can be amusingly rude about their perceived political enemies. And who fucks.
Avatar
Which itself seems interesting since a similar group has been crowing about how they should never have got rid of the messiah. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's a certain incoherence to the current Tory position. Come at me.
Avatar
Well yes, he was, when it suited him. It all depends on his target, though? London Mayor? Look at me, I'm a liberal, pro-EU candidate. PM needing "red wall" votes? Hey, I'm still near the centre, there's nothing to be frightened of. Revenant PM needing Reform votes? I dread to think.
there must be an appearance element to this? Johnson ran closer to the centre but is a barely constrained id in athleisure wear. Sunak dresses expensively and is comfortable with finance types so is coded as technocratic despite being far more to the right.
Avatar
Imagine trying to get votes by going where the voters are, ludicrous. Anyway, National Service is centrist now? Presumably Frosty wants everyone under the age of 21 shot instead.
Avatar
If Frosty the Snowman thinks that Sunak's panic attack is attempting to "win from the centre", then they truly are completely f***ed.
Avatar
Why any of us give the rare interventions of this brain-farting buffoon the slightest notice is increasingly mysterious to me. If there’s any possibility that the ascension of Sir Kier will render the dolt silent for a while I think it should be the top line of the Labby Manny.
Avatar
Think that's a real possibility. Sunak's a Brexiter, but I don't get the "the Anglosphere is in various stages of conflict with the Untrustworthly Other" vibe I get off a lot of the rest of them. His being Asian will compound that as well.
Avatar
Just double checking... the centre is usually the bit in the middle, right? Is that where the Tories are supposed to be?
Avatar
Mmmm, those takes are the reheated conclusions of the left in 2015 which worked out so well for them..
Avatar
I never want to hear about this man unless the story is that he's doing a podcast with someone called Nixon.
Avatar
Avatar