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For context, Yglesias has written detailed threads and articles on his blog about how devastating Trump's proposed economic platform would be to the economy, inflation, and the deficit. This is the response from an NYT economics reporter.
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I'm not even a huge Yglesias fan or defender here, but he's getting a pass from me on this for actually caring about the truth, which is the only thing that should matter.
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I'm actually an yglesias hater. but this is unequivocally true. a tarrif increase would lead to huge price increases and a trade war which would fuck over exporters. it's basic economics. putting a tariff on foreign goods would result in responses.
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it's baffling that the media won't mention that this would hurt farmers and require another stimulus to them. china is a huge buyer of soy. the GOP used to be for free trade too lol. Obama did tariffs to protect steel which failed. trying to replace trillions ends in trade war.
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just sharing a word and not defining outcimes is fucked up and negligent. the best media is engaging and useful not just regurgitating press releases but explaining the impact on the real world.
I keep thinking I'm the only person who remembers that we already had a whole trade war with China. Nice to know I'm not alone; now if we just had more company.
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Even without trade wars, it’s a literally directly inflationary action. Prices to consumers are definitionally higher with higher barriers to entry
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It's very annoying that Yglesias has some genuinely good takes on stuff like cars and housing but then turns around and says shit like "what if Democrats lose because they don't say trans people are bad"
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I am in a similar boat, he has different focuses than me, but he does actually care about the truth here, which is highly offensive to a lot of the Trump fantasy.
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If you read all of his detailed threads, articles, and blogs then you're a much bigger fan than me.
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I don't. But it wasn't hard to look at what he's been up to recently after seeing Smith's tweet.
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also the simple fact of it is that Trump inherited a good economy and left a terrifying one
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Right, "the economy only improved" isn't true! That "only" shouldn't be there!
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by the rules of Covid Doesn’t Count he gets a mulligan on everything, apparently
Or even improved, if we are measuring day 1 to day last
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I don't think any serious about economics would declare that the economy "only improved" during Trump's term, even ignoring how the economy did in fact crash after Covid. You'd want to have to dig in to at the very least the tariffs and the trade war.
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That's boring and not zing-y, though.
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And let’s be real. His performance pre-covid was ineffective. Trillions of $ in tax cuts pumped in to the economy for below trend line job and wage growth. Barely above trend line GDP. Ballooned the deficit by over $200B a year for all that “expansion”.
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No, the Rs are Good on Economy. That is a Law, and mere accidents of history cannot disprove a Law.
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This drives me nuts. Like, we have decades of evidence that every Republican is both absolutely incompetent and criminally malfeasant when it comes to the economy.
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It doesn't count if Democrats help Republicans save themselves from their own stupidity, you see. If Pelosi can shepherd through CARES, you can't blame Trump for telling people to inject bleach & take deworming meds
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US politics is the hard men make good times meme but for the economy. GOP inherits a good economy and proceeds to fuck it. Dems take power and patch things together but fixing things is hard and people don’t like it so GOP wins the election and inherits a good economy.
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We can't expect people to abandon such core, foundational tenets of their worldview and religious beliefs as "Rs are better on the economy," Kait.
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If we let Trump wreck everything because of people in their mid-twenties who apparently literally don't remember the only bad economy they ever witnessed I am going to scream
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Also, it's actually not your job as an econ reporter to only write about what's "useful" or "zinger-y." Just tell the truth! Is Yglesias right about Trump's platform or not?
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But then everyone's heartfelt wishes for suffering and death will come true!!!
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Everyone in their mid twenties was in their teens 2008 to 2010.
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I meant witnessed as a working adult with bills to pay, but yes.
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I imagined that's what you meant, but kids of high school age are often aware of their families' financial hardships. As the son of a father whose union factory closed, I can assure you of that.
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NYT economics reporter in 2026: Trump has increased the chocolate rations from 4 to 2, how can you claim he ruined the economy
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As soon as you accept the fact that the NY Times under the current Sulzberger very much wants Trump to win and is in the tank for him, all of their egregious horse shit makes a lot more sense.
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From the people who gave us "the Dems are just being alarmist about Republicans overturning Roe" (1973-2022)
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Is Matt's analysis correct? Is there anything to worry about with Republican policies? That's of no interest to a NYT reporter, who's laser focused on the real question: is it zingy enough
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I like how he confronts the accusation he hasn't paid enough attention to Trump's policy proposals and their affect on the economy, by saying he's voiced his disapproval on GOP's ill defined support of social programs
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My work repeatedly [does not address the content of your comment at all].
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Seriously, this is one of the most frustrating communication styles, where a person gives the shape of a response that's completely divorced from actually addressing the point.
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You want more in depth economic analysis of proposed policies? Well if you've read my work you'd seen my criticisms of politics messaging.
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It's the mirror opposite of "so you're saying you hate waffles" where a well-articulated reply is read and responded to as if it said something else.
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When Matt goddamn ygleisias is the guy who comes out of an interaction looking the best, something is deeply wrong
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Wow, he said that the Republicans have an inchoate yearning??? Is he allowed to hit them that hard????
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Scales Associate really got him good here, whoever that is
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I heard she's some kind of "dragon lady"
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what a beauty and the airplane’s not bad either
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Oh God it’s the hipster coffee shop of economics reporters.
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The worst fucking thing about Trump is how reporters & talking heads get to claim “of course he doesn’t mean that!” whenever doing so benefits him or them.
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Gas was cheap! We got checks from the government! Nobody try to remember why!
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goddammit don't put me in the position of defending yglesias >_<