c0nc0rdance: I see that the Foo Fighters just kicked off their UK tour, so it's time to drag out my "Why I Hate Dave Grohl" thread. TL;DR: The Foo Fighters funded AIDS denialist groups from 1999-2007 that lobbied to deny people life-saving medication. They have never acknowledged the deaths they caused.

I see that the Foo Fighters just kicked off their UK tour, so it's time to drag out my "Why I Hate Dave Grohl" thread. TL;DR: The Foo Fighters funded AIDS denialist groups from 1999-2007 that lobbied to deny people life-saving medication. They have never acknowledged the deaths they caused.

I don't think I've ever talked on Bluesky about why I hate the Foo Fighters and Dave Grohl. Don't read any further unless you're prepared for uncomfortable truths about the "Nicest Guy in Rock", and his very substantial body count & subsequent cover-up.

Folks in the replies going “ah shit, there goes my hero”

Too soon!!

Wow thanks for sharing, I never knew about any of that. Sad how far back science denial goes and how much influence conspiracy theorists can have over the public.

it's wild how much this is basically not on the internet at all, apart from some reddit threads where the mods of various foo fighter subreddits explain that people are not allowed to ask about it and will be banned for trying

Some of us are old enough to remember it as it happened.

love when your thread pops up because it reaffirms my (not so) groundless hatred for the band

They're also really boring musically. I mean in addition to whatever deaths they caused.

I never knew any of this but now feel vindicated in my relentlessly taste-based disgust for this outlandishly mid band that emerged from the ashes of a way better band

and every time? i read it and get angrier than last time.

Every time I’ve mentioned this people look at me like I’m crazy so it’s nice to have receipts

wait what the fuck? this is beyond evil

Also better described in this article goat.com.au/health/dave-...

Dave Grohl Shows How You Erase A Wild Move Like Backing HIV Deniersgoat.com.au Dave Grohl and Foo Fighters once supported a HIV denier group, Alive and Well, early in their career but has since distanced themselves from that wild move.

Which groups did they fund, and how? Thanks.

It's in the thread. "Alive and Well With AIDS Alternatives", founded by Christine Maggiore, was their official charity. They held charity events (where other denialist groups received donations), and had a clickable link on their webpage where you could buy her book or give her money.

So sorry, just found the link and read it. Thank you for posting this.

They may not want to talk about their past mistakes from 20 years ago, but since then they've supported organizations such as Elton John's AIDS Foundation and LIFEbeat.

My guess is they live in fear of their legal culpability & that supporting AIDS charities is an intentional stratagem for any future lawsuits. I suspect this is also why they'll never do a mea culpa since it would open them to people seeking restitution for the harm they did.

IANAL, but I have trouble believing they'd have any legal liability (as opposed to taking a bad reputational hit). There's no sign of the mens rea; they can argue they were as deceived as anyone who listened to them. I could be wrong, though.

As I mentioned elsewhere, the very first step in making good would be an acknowledgment and an apology. He's done neither. Contributing to good causes does not excuse hundreds of thousands of deaths, and it's wild to me that this needs explaining.

Have you done that one on Morrisey (yet)?

Is this some shitty stuff apart from him being a nazi? Because 'Morrissey is a nazi' is not much of a scoop by this point ngl.

well fuck it’s worse than I thought 🤬

Didn't the singer for his older band think that buckshot cured depression?

Pretty sure it did, tbh.

Aye. He's not sad any more

I read about this a few months ago and it's just such a wild story. Impressed they managed to sweep it (mostly) under the rug tbh

why tf did they do that?

One of the band mates was friends with the org leader, iirc. They've since cut ties and have done a lot of work to spread AIDS awareness, as well as fight for LGBT rights in other ways.

Holy fucking shit.

Oh wow. TIL.

They also went on to campaign for various LGBT charities as well as AIDS and cancer research. Almost as if they realized they were duped, and instead of making a scene about it, had an about face and worked to undo the damage they could 🤔

Instead of acknowledging the damage they’d caused ignored it, hoped no one would notice and that fans would back them up uncritically

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fig...

Reading Maggiore's Wikipedia page (who died in 2008 of HIV, which she had transmitted to her daughter, who predeceased her) is fucking enraging.

W O W.

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WHAT I had no idea

Same. I am shocked.

Far as I’m concerned, the guy who earned the title of “Nicest Guy In Rock” passed away in 2007.

Joe Zawinul ?

Brad Delp.

Late to this but I have bad news for you...

Are you referring to his suicide back in 2007?

More the circumstances immediately preceding it. Setting up a hidden spycam in a woman's bedroom isn't exactly nice guy stuff.

Aw. So sad. Peter Frampton is well liked, no? I'm not a big fan (though I do like his music) so I could've missed something, but I thought he was considered a genuinely nice guy too.

Never heard much about him personally, one way or the other. From what I’ve heard, Alice Cooper is a really nice guy in person too. Just be ready to talk golf. A lot.

Well, he's pleasant and well-mannered, but he's a Republican. And, I mean, he's still a Republican *now*. So I don't know that I could say Alice is a nice guy. 😅

Alice Cooper called transgender a “fad” and referred to woke culture. Not a nice guy.

I... I am at a loss for words. Always said that I didn't trust people who smile all the time and he smiles a lot.

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