It seems incorrect to read #2 as anything other than "we'll have more for you later, we're working on it" and I would recommend that they should be very diligent on it because of the amount of people freaking out about what's pretty normal language here.
1. Biden deputy campaign manager Quentin Fulks says he's "scared as shit" by the Supreme Court's ruling giving Trump immunity
2. Biden deputy campaign manager Quentin Fulks says Biden deeply respects the Supreme Court and refuses to use any power he has to challenge it pic.twitter.com/9ukHEV8EZA
Once again, the speed of a campaign and the speed of governance is so much slower and deliberate than the speed of posting specifically for reasons like this.
But also like, what’s the plan? Not like I expect you to have it, but like plan implies something that’s going to counter this action, maybe entirely, and what’s the plan that gets courts to say oh, you’re right, we can just lay that immunity decision to the side?
The problem is that support of Democracy involves respect for institutions. There is a difficult needle to threat that is “the institutions have fallen into rot and need to be cleaned up but not replaced”. Because if the idea is we need to replace the institutions that is some sort of revolution.
Eliminate all the institutions is and let me be the will of the people is literally what Trump is selling. “That but from the Left” is not what I think most of us should want.
“These justices have betrayed the American people, and their oaths to the constitution. I ask for their resignations, and I encourage Congress to take action to remove them.” Then name everyone except ACB, throw them off a bit
I agree that is how you get there. But again, it is a narrow path and I think that “Biden respects the institution of the Court” is not in conflict with that idea.
Good point, though I was thinking a PR plan in particular. Direct legal route would be an amendment which wouldn’t go through but could be a good issue.
And always, expand the court
What if they were already working on a plan for months because they considered that this would be how the Court would rule?
What if they didn't want to tip their hand yet?
“This is really scary, but we don’t know how to respond yet” seems like a perfectly reasonable response.
This is urgent, but it’s not that urgent. Biden is still president and Dems still hold the Senate.
It may quickly become urgent though.
This is also to my eyes an important factor in all of this. Just completely beyond the pale stuff like "actually Nixon shouldn't be held responsible for Watergate" and "The DOJ isn't independent" need to be addressed and nobody saw those coming.
basically every lawyer I've talked to on or off here is stunned by how bad it is, I think most folks expected some sort of "come up with an official acts test" punt but it's about as bad as it could possibly be
I mean, if you want to have a big symbolic response about how American is about preventing the rule of a King, seems like July 4th is right there (day before or after also works).
I think at this point there have been enough choices by the usual suspects to upend precedent and *not* offer a replacement standard that they see the resulting inconsistency across districts as a positive.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they had a response prepared for the kind of “official acts” immunity i and a lot of lawyers I know and follow anticipated and then had to scrap it and pull out a thesaurus filled only with synonyms for “egregious”.
I would agree with this. I have said many times to people recently that I have recently taken to always predicting the worst case scenario and I have continued to be proven correct. Even I, a very cynical Supreme Court watcher who really thought they had prepared for all bad stuff, was blindsided.
Pretty much anyone who was holding out hope that Roberts cared how he'd read in the history books was quite shook.
They just forgot that they are already rewriting the history books.
I'm no kind of expert, but I thought even 7-2 against was a pretty pessimistic prediction. I was genuinely shocked to see even Roberts go for "the President is above the law".
Even I was surprised. They should have had at least a few staffers prepping a response for this outcome, but it seems they did not. It is a repeat of the Dobbs decision. I wish I could say this is only the second time this happened, but it is not and still no plan to handle the corrupt SCOTUS.
The Biden campaign should totally just shoot from the hip while the ink is barely dry on the ruling, definitely shouldn't be very carefuly and thoughtful about how they'd approach a crisis of constitutional powers /s
getting very tired of people's _first_, immediate reaction to every act of evil being to blame The Democrats for not being on it in exactly what they're convinced is the one right way, instantly, every time
You’re not wrong, but I would simply add that being flatfooted about SCOTUS decisions has been a hallmark of Dems for the past couple years. Staff knew the ruling was coming, they needed to get his signoff on statement during his 10-4 cogent time.
Yes, for example the Dems were epic legends for their spot-on lightning response to Dobbs, after they had [checks notes] several months advance notice.
Yes, always perfect and deserving of nothing but more applause and harder voting, those Dems. 😐
I'll forgive them taking their time if the response is a banger. But if they're not planning on coming at this with guns ablazing, they needed to say something hours ago.
