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reminder that Trump won in a squeaker in 2016 after cheating extravagantly and the vast majority of candidates he's endorsed since his term began have gotten shellacked at the ballot box. he's gonna get destroyed in Nov. and I'm gonna laugh about it
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You’re almost certainly right but goddamn is it hard to stay optimistic right now
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Seriously. The smart money was on him losing in 2016. I'm pretty sure he'll lose this time, but I still have that looming in the back of my mind
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Reminder that people in the courtroom have been dealing with Trump squeakers for the last two weeks. I’ll see myself out.
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Not sure what has changed from then to now to suddenly have him getting “destroyed”. Not that I don’t want it to be so, I just don’t see it. It will be close again.
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He should be losing by 10. It’s scary parties can be this close to electoral parity after one of them does Dobbs and J6.
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I mean he should have been drummed out of the running by his own party on any number of occasions but the whole edifice is so rotten he's just taken it over instead. That's the real tragedy of him, not that he's particularly evil but that we have a party that will countenance him.
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I asked a conservative relative if they’d vote for Hitler if they ran as a Republican and they said I guess so before thinking about it.
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Yup. That’s where we’re at.
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just ignore the polls...they've been wrong for almost a decade now....the media has to hype Trump up otherwise they have nothing to fill the air with during an election campaign. Meanwhile, GOP is losing state house seats in Alabama.
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Special elections are a welcome sign but general elections are harder to predict since they bring in so many more infrequent voters. If I could convince Republican campaigns to ignore polls, I would, since they’d waste a lot more resources.
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well, we found another way to get them to waste resources - their orgs are now legal defense funds for Trump
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Exactly. It won’t change them. Ever. Not in a general.
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Polls in this age are trash. Even pollsters will tell you it takes 10,000 phone calls, some made two and three times to the same number in order to get 900 respondents. Only exit polls matter.
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By itself that just makes polling more expensive. One theory is that right wingers are now less likely to answer polls due to anti-polling sentiment from their leaders. Campaigns also still have to make choices about what’s competitive with limited info. www.politico.com/news/2021/07...
Pollsters: ‘Impossible’ to say why 2020 polls were wrongwww.politico.com A new report couldn’t answer the big question plaguing political polling: Why were surveys off by so much in 2020?
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Good article but it asks more questions than it answers. The facts don't bear out that trump is a better candidate than he was in 20' and he had a lot of help in 16'. Barring Biden dropping dead Trump gets his 40% and still loses by a landslide.
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One really pernicious thing that has infected us all since 2016 is the “I’d like to see ol’ Donny wriggle out of THIS jam, ah, well, nevertheless” trope, which makes us feel like suckers for thinking (or saying) he could ever fail. The trope was real for a long while but he’s run out of magic.
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By July I'm going to be reading this post daily to muster the will to get out of bed.
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Inshallah, but I lack your confidence.
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He's going to get wrecked in the popular vote and still win the election because our system is broken.
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Printing this post and putting it in a locket until November
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Endorse. His support is softening. Nikki Haley got 150,000 votes in the PA primary a week ago, and she dropped out in March
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you're probably right, and polls have consistently underrated dem vote share post-dobbs, but if you thought there was extravagant cheating that time...hoo boy it's going to be nothing compared to this year
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hope you are right! I do think a criminal conviction of any kind, even if/when appealed, will turn off any swing voters and independents. Then it's just if he can energize his MAGA base on key states enough to overcome incumbent advantage
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This is a fun thread where libs completely ignore the genocide and try to convince themselves that the election is about Trump.
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I sincerely hope you’re correct