A big predicate of this coverage we’ve been seeing is that Dems would be hunky dory with either a) dumping Biden for Harris or b) having an open convention. All of it conspicuously doesn’t talk to the ppl who would be operative in that. This article specifically does. These ppl aren’t on board.
I have seen very few serious people arguing that Biden should be deposed at the convention, by a delegate vote. There’s a zero percent chance that would happen, and anyone suggesting that as a possible course of action is not credible
Considering the number of times Biden has clearly said "no I'm not dropping out," persisting with this is not meaningfully different from suggesting that as a course of action
Joe Biden can’t say anything other than “I’m not dropping out, end of story”, until he decides to drop out.
If Joe Biden ever says “I’m thinking about it”, then it’s over.
There’s a difference in trying to convince Joe Biden to drop out even after he says no, and challenging him at the convention
I was out on Stewart when his first show back on the Daily Show was "Well, both these people are old white men. The election is going to suck." Bullshit false equivalency.
I ain't throwing out all the times I thought he and his writers were on that good stuff! It's just sad to disagree with him here. Especially when he was like France can do two elections in a couple weeks but we can't?
Yeah due. Sorry. We a lot bigger and a lot more fucked up.
He's right on a lot of stuff and centering the political absurdity back when did a lot to get me politically active. But there is a streak of him standing athwart voting and proclaiming "a pox on both your houses" especially when the GOP has gotten markedly worse
Generally these delegates are elected by local party organizations and the state party, not by a campaign per se. But yes, these should be expected to represent the party faithful. But also they’re the folks running GOTV and canvassing operations in this swing state. And they want Biden!
However we want to frame these peoples roles, they are the ones that any of these sorts of replacement/open convention plans have to run through and this a clear indication that there’s no real appetite for it
After months and years of "do something," and now a very simple path remains if we only have the courage to complete the course.
Ezra is a special boy, but that's why we have systems.
It's what I would say too in that position. Coming out against Biden would have zero upside. It doesn't mean they don't privately prefer another option
I "privately" prefer many options. That doesn't mean I let my secret fantasies get in the way of rational decision-making. Speculating what people prefer is pointless.
Delegates are good Democrats who have been chosen to vote for the nominee. I will too, even for Plywood. But there's consistent polling and focus groups of voters - D, I, and R - who've said for two years they think Joe f'in Biden is too old.
Shouting on Morning Joe isn't prosecuting the case.
Not even rank and file: these are terminally political freaks being interviewed, who showed up on a perfectly good Saturday morning to try to get elected as delegates. The top 1% of politically engaged psychopaths.
Pledged Biden delegates are not exactly "rank and file voters" and the quotes from the delegates sure seem like they for anyone other than Trump. Not Biden or bust.
