bouie is literally the only person on the NYT board who is behaving and responding to the debate like a professional that has followed and covered a presidential election. i mean that seriously, i'm not being snarky.
if you actually get *paid* to write about politics for a living, screaming that the nominee has to drop out after one bad debate *in june* (and one in which the challenger did not do well, either), you are unqualified for your job and your salary
Biden steps down. Harris is muscled aside in favor of Andy Beshear. Jim Clyburn and other high ranking blacl Democrats says “wait a sec, why are we elevating Harris?” what happens next?
“buh you just love identity politics” doesn’t get around the fact that parties are coalitions, Harris has a real and influential constituency, and ignoring it could prove a problem.
I’m torn on this question and think you’re making a compelling serious argument. But I will say the one bit of evidence we *do* have that a non Biden D would not be saddled with the unpopularity is that D’s are polling like 5-7 points ahead of Biden in basically every statewide race.
Look, you all can go round and round on this all you want, the people who aren't partisans are not going to vote for the guy who was on stage last night, no matter how absurd Trump is, he looked vibrant and did not seem diminished
To casual voters, independents, and undecideds, that will matter
Certainly by July 11th (Trump's sentencing date).
Besides, if it turns out that Biden is really just down with a cold--which might very well be the case, if reports are to be believed--then the debate may not be an accurate indication of his performance.
Not even sure what that is supposed to mean Mr. Uncle Dude but I would suggest you go back and check a few moments in Presidential history, start with "Dukakis in the tank" if that doesn't work go check out Gary Hart...when people's fears about someone are confirmed it often leaves a mark
I actually hope I am wrong, that would be great...so, not really worth going back and forth with you (so far your one argument is that political moments are all perishable..okay, not true, but sometimes true)
Love you too brother...
I don't know why I am being nice here, you started out being dismissive, you were just insulting, and you have made no arguments to support your perspective...but I will do my best to keep myself together despite the insult
Have a great night
I mean that would be nice, but he didn't fall into a pit of his own biggest negative last night...I am not saying I am happy about it, quite the opposite
We'll see what happens. One bad debate is not the end of the world.
And seriously... how do you debate a non-stop barrage of lies? I'll bet if the moderators had stepped in and actually did their job it would have gone better for EVERYONE.
The problem is not the bad debate, it is that he gave truth to the one thing every critic has been saying for a year...that he is frail and losing his faculties...there were multiple times when he literally lost track of what he was saying...it was not good
But hope I am wrong