bouie is literally the only person on the NYT board who is behaving and responding to the debate like a professional that has followed and covered a presidential election. i mean that seriously, i'm not being snarky.
if you actually get *paid* to write about politics for a living, screaming that the nominee has to drop out after one bad debate *in june* (and one in which the challenger did not do well, either), you are unqualified for your job and your salary
a bad debate performance by an incumbent early in the summer isn't even unusual, it's pretty normal, and the challenger is facing sentencing for more than three dozen felony charges in a couple of weeks, insisting that it's over for the incumbent *now*, *in june* is absurd
The panic pairs hilariously with the “why is Biden doing this so early?” talking point from the last month.
I dunno, guys, maybe this is why? Test the waters with CNN while voters are still mostly tuned out?
Biden steps down. Harris is muscled aside in favor of Andy Beshear. Jim Clyburn and other high ranking blacl Democrats says “wait a sec, why are we elevating Harris?” what happens next?
“buh you just love identity politics” doesn’t get around the fact that parties are coalitions, Harris has a real and influential constituency, and ignoring it could prove a problem.
right, like, the natural question to this hypothetical replacement candidate is "what would you, as president, do differently than the biden administration has done", and i doubt you find anyone willing to discuss that
I’m torn on this question and think you’re making a compelling serious argument. But I will say the one bit of evidence we *do* have that a non Biden D would not be saddled with the unpopularity is that D’s are polling like 5-7 points ahead of Biden in basically every statewide race.
The median outcome is going through the pain of a renomination process, getting Mayor Pete up there then a bunch of polls are like yep still Trump +2, sorry, bud
I was listening to Political Gabfest this morning. I like those guys, you've been on there, B-boy. They were ready to get rid of Biden, and then with Harris with barely a thought, bc she can be tarred with the economy.
You can try that if you want one of the ugliest conventions imaginable.
Yes who could ever dispute the flawless screenshot data of completely useless poll. When was it taken, who was polled, what was the control group etc etc come on man
If Biden were to step aside, you get Harris. I’m not saying that’s good or bad just know that is the only option should Biden step aside. If you think they’re going to sidestep the first Black female to be veep for some Midwestern white dude you just aren’t paying attention.
It all makes sense if you assume actions do not have reactions, you don’t understand the politics of your own party, and you believe in magical thinking.
And the "is muscled" readily collapses on examination. The only one in the party with that muscle is Biden, & why in God's name would Biden be engineering his own replacement by undermining his hand-picked successor? One night of bad headlines becomes a persistent nightmare on the party's chest
By being its leader; exactly the sort of thing that makes one an effective nominee. They are begging for Biden to show his effectiveness by disqualifying himself for ineffectiveness
If D’s are shitting the bed after last night, how do you think I’s and “never Trumpers” are feeling?
Does anyone honestly think after last night we gained support from those demographics?
Gained? No. But they'll come back soon enough, especially if Biden can make more displays like he did in Raleigh today. Never Trumpers are *never voting Trump* so I'm not too worried about their preferences. Meanwhile, Trump is getting sentenced in two weeks.
I was just in an extended thread elsewhere where everyone hated Kamala and was adamant she couldn’t be the nominee. I don’t understand why people hate her. Wouldn’t it look really bad to pass over her, especially for a man or a white man?
yeah, he's fine, whitmer's fine, pritzker is fine, wes moore is fine, they're all fine, but none of them are winning a general election after a nasty floor fight and with five months to run
