Jesus. Automated enforcement advocates really underestimate the potential for abuse with these cameras. The amount of information they collect is staggering, as is the ability to piece it all together to meticulously track individual people.
reason.com/2024/07/01/s...
The cameras in question here aren't enforcement related -- they're specifically for surveillance and passively tracking movement. If we ripped down all the red light and speed cameras these things are still there. The solution is legal we don't have a right to privacy in public (yet).
The problem is if we have a right to privacy in public the police will just use that to prosecute people for filming them doing violent crime. It seems like we can find a way to keep the government from collecting and distributing personal info without overhauling privacy rights
From a documentary I saw:
"NYC is a liberal city. The NYPD is not.
Boston is a liberal city. The BPD is not."
When these folks want to take over the country, they won't use the army, they'll use the cops they armed w/military gear for the last +20yrs & itchy trigger fingers.
I wish everyone knew and understood this, instead of showing blind deference to the blue. I guess they are either male white nationalists or fear being lumped in with the defund the police crowd
I have never heard of anything like this happening in the EU, where most traffic enforcement is done via cameras.
Maybe it's something other than license plate scanners at issue, such as the USA's lack of a codified right to privacy with outlined punishment for violations?
unlike red light cameras or speed cameras that just read a plate when they're triggered, these license plate readers scan & store data on every single car that passes by- their primary purpose is to be a surveillance dragnet for all vehicles on the road
Can we just go ahead and do what black and brown folks have been telling us for centuries and assume that no police official is trustworthy without outrageously compelling evidence that they are?
'Unfortunately, that doesn't put an end to it, as the grand jury's press release noted that "the Sacramento Police Department continues to share ALPR data with Washington, Oregon, Nevada, and Arizona LEAs."'
They should be cut off until they are within the law.
Minnesota doesn't do automated traffic tickets but our police do have plate tracking cameras all over anyway.
I'd rather ban or control the cameras but that seems impossible so it would be nice if they did traffic enforcement with them instead of no enforcement or shooting people
Think we really need to look at this whole data collection industry, and I don't know, destroy it.
Between using it as a political weapon, using it as a harassment tool, and using it to make ads ever more targeted and obnoxious, I think it's gone way beyond being a net negative for us all.
There's no technical reason it couldn't work like the old versions (radar gun pops off a polaroid) where it only records detected speeders.
Of course it won't without legislation to that effect and those ALPR's are already out there, NOT improving road safety 🤷
License plate readers are a real scourge. Fine if they want to ping a database that instant to see if that car is wanted for something. But then they need to delete the data!
They don't underestimate it at all. They know EXACTLY what they're doing. They've seen how the CCP has brought their people under complete control and they want to bring that to the US, too, under the guise of "public safety".
