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10 bucks says that if Biden were to drop out and be replaced by whoever, the same people currently flipping out would see the exact same poll results, shit their pants once more, and demand another switch
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this is where I’m at. maybe would have been a good idea to try and swap out Biden before he won all the primaries. but that didn’t happen. we’re all on the leaky ass USS Biden and screaming he needs to drop out is to drill more holes in the bottom bsky.app/profile/esch...
"Replace biden" was a perfectly good idea almost right up to the day ezra did his piece in february when it was too late for it to happen in any orderly fashion absent the fantasy of the nonexistent Dem Council Of Elders uncontroversially choosing someone
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I’m far more comfortable with who Biden surrounds himself with compared to Trump. I’d rather a second term “Weekend at Bernie’s” scenario than a Trump administration.
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The time to plan for a transition to a different candidate was 2 yrs ago. It didn't happen and now we're stuck with him for better or worse or No Difference. All of this speculation hinges on Biden choosing to step down which - minor point - we have *no evidence whatsoever he is even considering.*
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the obvious move for the Biden campaign that I’ve yet to see anyone suggest is to give Harris more to do and say and portray the ticket as more of a unified partnership. Obama leveraged Biden to good effect in 2012 but even though Harris is doing some events you’d never know it, there’s no narrative
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If “give Harris the nom” and “give the nom to anyone but Harris” are both too risky (true), then at least try to blunt the age weakness by highlighting how much younger the average age of the ticket is compared to Trump (at least for now)
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100%. Continuing to do it now reveals the inability of some to handle adversity. Reeks of “haven’t participated in team activities.” We’re in the game now, can’t change QBs, so to speak.
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yeah I was vocally calling for him to not run for re-election but that ship has sailed
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The fact that people like us weren't listened to is precisely the problem. We keep pointing out obvious problems, we get ignored or otherwise told off, we end up in the exact problem we predicted, and they go "well now we have no choice".
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I didn't think much about all the wizards behind the scenes in the Dem party before 2016. I think it's long past time those people got a lot more exposure and accountability. My guess is they're more 'well connected' than competent.
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I believed this until the debate, but it is clear Biden’s age is an insurmountable problem. We can’t win the presidency or the senate with answers like this from the top of the ticket.
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We are electing an administration even more than a President. Joe is okay at his age. You may not remember Reagan had actual Alzheimer's and its (mis) remembered as the Golden Age of Presidencies.
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Why do these people need to air this bullshit in public? Why wouldn’t be just as effective for Ezra to make this case to a high level Dem op over $30 cocktails?
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I was 100% on board with "ditch Biden" and would describe our current scenario, basically, when talking to people. That was in 2023. It's too late now though, and the sooner people realize that the better.
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Throwing out Dem primary votes would piss off a LOT of Dem primary voters. Many would stay home (including me-- literally throwing away my vote would piss me off). Only Democratic PUNDITS have agency, apparently...🤷
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Problem was and remains that there’s no new Obama in the field. And no, Michelle is not running.
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Wow, maybe you should have listened to the left when we were explaining until we were blue in the face about how Biden had to go. Instead you insisted there was no alternative a whole year before the election. Have fun!
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We are basically freaking out about a static polling environment that shows engaged Democrats and Republicans locked in and undecideds simply not paying attention yet.
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it doesn’t seem like too much to ask for milquetoast centrist Dems to at least not behave like Republican plants, but apparently it is
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This is the infuriating thing. They hector us about the need to be team players while they themselves *live* for this kind of backbiting. It makes them feel good about themselves. Savvy, informed, the person to talk to.
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I find it deeply funny that some of the harshest critics of this administration (particularly on foreign policy) have been saying, "WTF? No. You don't go to a brokered convention because of one poor debate" while centrists have been lighting their hair on fire.
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It is honestly an unexpected role reversal.
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They’ve never understood that many of us on the left criticize centrists at least in part *because we want the party to win*. I hate the genocide in Gaza because it’s a moral atrocity but also believe it’s politically stupid to put yourself in service of a foreign leader who wants your team to lose.
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Every accusation is an admission.
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you really don't have to be a team player for these people
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A bunch of talking heads shitting their pants while Biden remains calm is basically the reason Biden is president in the first place
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I think you are seriously underestimating how desperate people are for anybody but Trump or Biden.
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You all need a new... NO NOT THAT ONE!
This is so very very very dumb. If you wanted to replace Biden you should of talked about it last year at the latest (And before you talk yes I know some were, but no where near the amount now). It is 4 months from a election. If you replace Biden, I will grantee that most people will hate it
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Fuck trump. Fuck republicans. Fuck biden. Fuck democrats. Trump should be in prison. Biden is letting genocide happen (among a long list of campaign promises failures) Democracy without parties but for now im for voting jill stein full stop.
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it’s your vote, throw it away if you want
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And it is your vote for a war monger To each their own i guess
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We're all very impressed, here's the attention you ordered
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If I thought voting for Jill Stein would stop the genocide in Gaza I’d not only vote but campaign for her.
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9oC, I skipped a few steps here for which I apologize. I mean, I get it. Biden’s commitment to enabling Israel’s genocide in Gaza is itself criminal. Rage is the appropriate reaction and protest/direct action the imperative. 1/
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I don’t even fault you for declaring, today, your intention to vote for Jill Stein four months from now. IMO it constitutes fair warning, like a dog that barks so it won’t have to bite. The admin has to understand what it’s risking electorally even if nothing else about the atrocity moves it. 2/
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"Jill Stein?" What--did Vermin Supreme not run this year?
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So you're voting for Trump. Good for you.
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So those other candidates are basically polling as well against Trump without having a bucket load of campaign funds behind them? Seems like an opportunity to me.
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A lot of this is name recognition I think.
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These people have been wrong about literally every major issue of the past 25 years but I'm sure it'll turn out fine
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Oddly enough this makes me more inclined to support the most hassle free scenario of replacing Biden with Harris.
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yeah, like I don’t think she would be meaningfully stronger, but she can talk largely coherently, which is what the panic caucus supposedly cares about
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I think she probably has a higher ceiling. But it's not a risk free move.
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Disagree. That debate performance is disqualifying. Biden is incapable of moving his poll numbers and we have to move fast to find any alternative. Harris is already in a position where she will likely be president within 4 years if Biden wins, so she might as well be at the top of the ticket.
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I guarantee that in the hypothetical scenario in which they replace Biden, the NYT or WaPo would within days have an article full of vox pops from Dem activists and voters annoyed and angry that they replaced Biden.