Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg: OK besides this below and DEVO coming out of the Kent State massacre, what are other facts you have about the evolution of art / music /etc that wouldn't be obvious if you didn't know but, retroactively, explain and/or illuminate a LOT ?

OK besides this below and DEVO coming out of the Kent State massacre, what are other facts you have about the evolution of art / music /etc that wouldn't be obvious if you didn't know but, retroactively, explain and/or illuminate a LOT ?

Reminds me of how almost all the French dadaists and surrealists were WWI veterans of the trenches seriously exploring alternatives to conventional thought and language.

The entire genre of dancehall (more or less) came about when a reggae producer repurposed a "rock" beat he accidentally discovered on a casio kid's toy keyboard. People recently discovered the long-anonymous Japanese woman who programmed the beat was in fact a huge reggae fan and scholar.

Okuda Hiroko: The Casio Employee Behind the “Sleng Teng” Riddim that Revolutionized Reggaewww.nippon.com The “Sleng Teng” riddim revolutionized reggae music in the mid-1980s, and has spawned hundreds of versions in the decades since then. Less well known is the story of how the distinctive bassline origi...

That’s the Under Mi Sleng Teng lady?

yup!

Sleng Teng could be its own subgenre of dancehall. Here is a video of Cutty Ranks being absolutely unreal on the Sleng Teng riddim circa 1986: youtu.be/Eb1A3IvgGz4

1986 Stereo Mars pnp rally cutty ranksyoutu.be

Casio not being copyright weirdos about its wide use is such a nice coda on the whole thing.

i love this story so so much i love casio beats so much

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This was wonderful. Thank you for sharing it

And also on top of that it might be based on the intro riff for “hang on to yourself”

That’s so cool!

I love this so much. Thank you for sharing

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George Lucas REALLY wanted to impress Spielberg, Coppola, et al, but the first time he showed them Star Wars they laughed him out of their little boys’ club. He then gave it to his ex-wife to edit, and she is the only reason it became a hit. She did not work on the prequels. Take it as you will.

Also Carrie Fisher did script finishing for Empire!

She did for other movies too!

Yes, many now classic comedies! She never got the credit she was due.

Her way cool achievements as a script doctor mostly got left out of the obits; I did my small part but I'm nobody.

Drowned in starlight, strangled by her own bra. We remember you, Space Mom.

I don’t believe this is true for EMPIRE. It’s said she worked on the prequels, which is why she’s on the commentary tracks for them. Regardless, she was a prolific and well-compensated script doctor, back when that was a thing, and almost never credited for her work due to the nature of that biz.

There was a viral online post a few years back professing to show her handwritten rewrites on an ESB script and I don’t believe that panned out, it was Kershner’s notes or something.

Hmm. I’m seeing several different versions. I do like, regardless of the circumstances, the writer telling Lucas “you can type this shit but you can’t say it”. If only more people told him that.

The legend is that Harrison Ford told him such on the ANH set. Which has layers to it because he was brought in to read the early scripts against the ACTUAL actor hopefuls 😂 Hey here’s one for the OP: CARRIE and STAR WARS had a shared casting call for the leads!

Of course, at the time she wasn’t his *ex* wife. Also she didn’t want to do it initially because she had just finished editing “Taxi Driver” for Scorsese and also suffered a miscarriage. But yes, Marcia Lucas saved Star Wars, and then she got an Oscar for it.

(And then basically got shafted in the divorce.)

I mean, she did get $50 million, probably could have gotten more but at that point she just wanted out.

Oh not even financially! He took complete credit for the Star Wars zeitgeist when his version made his contemporaries LAUGH. I mean, I was shown the opening star destroyer scene as a textbook example of continuity in film class and not one person mentioned that that was HER doing, not George’s.

I mean, she was not the *sole* editor on Star Wars, in fact she left before the editing was finished because Scorcese wanted her back for "New York, New York" and, well, that was a *paid* gig.

As evidenced by the fact that the editing has gotten worse and worse with the Lucas-version releases.

It’s not unlike Stan Lee. Both these universes are massively successful because of the contributions of many. Our culture likes to mythologize the single genius creator.

Also George Lucas wrote Star Wars because he desperately wanted to make a Flash Gordon movie and he couldn’t get the rights. If you watch the Flash Gordon movie that was eventually made, you can definitely see the influences.

That's also how DARKMAN got made; Sam Raimi wanted to make a Shadow movie but couldn't get the rights, so created his own vengeful lunatic in a long black coat.

And Spielberg created Indiana Jones because they wouldn't hire him to direct a Bond movie. I feel like we need to start saying no to directors more.

George Lucas created Indiana Jones. Obviously Spielberg & Harrison Ford made serious contributions to the legendary character, but the idea began with Lucas.

I mean, watch the Flash Gordon serials from the 30s, and you really get a Star Wars vibe.

Pretty much all of the 1970's geniuses worked with female editors. A lot of them didn't look so great when they stopped working with them. Worth thinking about! Editing is an underrated part of the process.

Most of the reports I've read of that screening have said that Spielberg was the only one that saw the potential in the film, basically telling Lucas that it was going to be a blockbuster. Besides the editing, the other vital element that was missing was John Williams' score.

It'd be pretty tough to film-edit out JarJar and the kid's pod racing contest. Those needed to be ripped out at script-writing, even before it's complete enough to edit.

there's a fan edit that only removes like 10 minutes from the Phantom Menace (a lot of the underwater stuff) and ALL Gungan dialogue is replaced by over dubbed alien voices with subtitles it's actually pretty good

"we have to basically remove or completely rewrite all the dialogue for this one character" is actually possible because the problem character is an alien

Marcia Lucas won the Oscar, not George. And I always thought that the prequels were what they were because George had a need to prove that he didn't need her.

That issue goes further. There's a direct correlation between Lucas ignoring the brilliant people he brought together to make the movies to go his own way and decline in quality of the franchise. The pattern was evident in the original trilogy, long before the prequels.

This video is fascinating: youtu.be/GFMyMxMYDNk?...

How Star Wars was saved in the edityoutu.be A video essay exploring how Star Wars' editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became.Check out more essays at ...

Much of impressionnism happened because of the ability to travel by train and paint outside.

That's a great one.

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