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I'm constantly marveling at Trump's luck as a politician. He only won in 2016 because he ran against one of the Democrats' weakest candidates. In 2024 he ends up running against someone even weaker.
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Counterpoint is that if the other possibilities were so much stronger, why didn’t they win their own party’s nomination?
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(I’m expecting a lot of begging the question in response to this)
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Because the party leadership is averse to healthy internal competition
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I'm a big Bernie supporter — knocked doors in 2016 and 2020, whole shebang — but a lot of people seem to brush aside the fact that he got, fair and square, significantly fewer votes than his opponents in both primaries
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Yeah no offense to you but I was real confused at the Bernie bros claiming he was robbed when, in fact, he simply got fewer votes. It's just math, and not even "weird electoral college" math.
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Only a fucking moron who knows nothing about how litigation is conducted would cite this story as proof of nefarious intent.
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also, once again, sanders is not a member of the democratic party.
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This is true, but he was running in the Democratic primary nonetheless
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yes, but that doesn't mean he has a right for the DNC to stand behind him and support him. you are not a member of the party, why is anyone surprised the party wants to elect a member rather than a non-member. (i'm p sure we are on the same side here i am just explaining my comment.)
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I'm not even talking about just Bernie. The party operated like 2016 was Hilary's by fiat to the point that Bernie was the *only* competition. And then in 2020 of course they cleared the slate to appoint Biden.
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if Sanders' only path to victory was a fractured moderate vote it says more about his strength as a candidate that Biden's, imho (and again, I'm a Sanders supporter)
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The Primary mostly gets settled by Iowa and South Carolina — states that won't go Democrat anyway. Maybe the party should design a primary that actually reflects their EC roadmap to victory, plus find a way to engage voters who don't normally show up to primaries but do for the general!
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I'd posit that Good At Party Primary and Nomination and Good At Getting Elected are not definitely linked, and are not mutually exclusive. That being said, I'd have a hard time pointing to anyone in 2016 who would've done better in the general. Especially the guy I liked who SUCKED at primaries
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That the media’s ongoing crusade against Democrats gets disappeared from these conversations makes me want to scream.
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That's a solid, incredibly relevant and important point. The fact that PoC women Democrats get the lion's share of that crusading cannot be overstated, either.
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It’s worse, true. But only a little bit. They’ve been trying to weaken and delegitimize Biden’s presidency almost from the outset. Certainly from the Afghanistan withdrawal.
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Clinton and Biden could leverage a massive amount of national name recognition their opponents could not
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Jeb Bush might want a word
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Trump was a famous person with a somewhat mixed reputation too in 2016 iirc