honestly i'll put down a marker: the conventional wisdom will emerge amongst the commentariat that it was a total and unmitigated disaster for joe biden, and in response joe biden will gain at least a point in the polls over the next month
once again its very cute that everyone who has poisoned their brains thinks that this election is going to be about anything other than abortion, the thing donald trump looked down the barrel of a camera and said it was good to ban
pouring one out for AG Sulzberger, who is continuing to put his face to the belt sander to learn that his newspaper does not actually dictate terms to the united states electorate
I really don’t think folks understand how badly these legacy media owners want to be the Murdoch of the left and play political kingmaker alongside the other billionaires. They have zero concept of being an integral part of a representative democracy. It’s power, money, influence - period.
Well, there are only so many characters here and I didn’t want to write a dissertation about how the democrats are actually more like right wing parties overseas, and we don’t have a true left movement, but in America “Left” = “Democrats” for most folks.
*Deep political-ad voice*
"Really? *Everyone?*"
*Rapid-cuts between high-profile cases involving forced birth, with local incidents mixed into relevant states.*
Abortion is the biggest weakness of the Rs bar none and Trump just willingly shivved himself in the ribs over it. I refuse to believe, especially after 2022, that isn't going to matter one jot because the public magically stopped noticing how much forced birth sucks.
Oh, but don't you see, the American Voting Public are all brain-damaged and can't connect forced birth with the parties responsible, so they'll just remember Biden was president at the time and vote against him en masse!
This is literally the only part of the debate I heard (because I was getting dinner in the kitchen) and "I'm chill. Leave it up to the states Texas is doing it's thing. Florida is doing it's thing. It's no big deal" did not sound like a winner to me
Also, the "everyone was happy I overturned Roe" one. Where they have someone tell their tragic, emotional, and relatable story with abortion care and cut that line in every 10 seconds
I look forward to them tweeting about this with increasingly huffy disbelief like they did every other time Joe Biden has come out ahead. They will never understand why the security guard at the New York Times loves him & they will platform anyone who says she really doesn't
the ideal debate result for Biden might actually be for him to go get some ice cream and watch a movie while Trump free-associates alone onstage for two hours.
the more people hear Trump speak, the more they're reminded of how nuts he is and his incumbency was.
I figured that would be the move, in a manner of speaking, but they didn't prep him that way & the moderators didn't give him an inch (I can hear them now: "Why would we 'go easy' on the President of the United States?")
The pundit class freaking out is a stark contrast to the little evidence we have from voters(which seeped into the CNN after show to no impact) that focus groups veered towards Biden as Trump got more vicious. Even a Latino undecided group came away saying they’d vote for Biden after the debate!
Apparently better for Biden than in English language media.
Undecided Latino voters chose Biden over Trump because Biden stuttered, he answered the questions. Trump didn't answer any questions, unless irrelevant lies count as answers:
