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Man, idk if this is going to work out www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/p...
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I go to bed at like 8:30, but I should not be president
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Also, whew, lemme tell you, one way to get blocked on here is to flood my mentions with "OH SO YOU HATE BIDEN/WANT TRUMP/YOU'RE TRYING TO DESTROY THE REPUBLIC" and so on because I posted a link to an article.
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Look, idk what the right path forward is for that campaign and neither does anyone else. Screaming at strangers about it on the internet probably doesn't help.
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But it's extra wild when the likely pivot would just be to swap in Harris, who would continue to have the exact same policies as Biden but without the burden of being a million years old.
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Go make phone calls for the Biden campaign instead of yelling at internet strangers. It's more productive.
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But here's the thing, and I'll say it as someone who monitors and analyzes media: the bad media coverage isn't going to let up. It's going to drive his poll numbers down and it's going to be relentless. There's blood in the water, and maybe it's not fair, but that's the reality right now.
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The only way it *might* stop is if he does something that really demonstrates that he's got some crazy-youthful energy/stamina/whatever that he maybe doesn't actually have. He should probably be on every TV show possible right now, doing every interview he can, just relentlessly in our faces.
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Showing up in an ABC interview tomorrow night isn't going to fix it. He can come off absolutely perfect and it's not going to turn the tide of the current media narrative. It just won't. And again, this might not be fair to him, to his supporters, or to the country.
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But the narrative is the narrative, and it's hard to overcome. If he dropped out of the race, it would shift to a different story. If he stays in, which he says he's going to, we need to buckle up for four months of non-stop, wall-to-wall *this*, fair or not.
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And I'm not taking mainstream media's side in this, to be clear.
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It seems clear to me that you are in fact taking the campaign and the party’s side by helping explain what the reality they have to deal with is
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There's plenty of people griping about the media and it's like, sure, it's unfair, it drives the opinions and not the other way around - but what are you going to do about it? Not play the game?
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this is basically where I’m at Biden cannot win in an environment where this is the main media narrative from now until the election if there is no way to get the media change that narrative, and I’m not sure there is, Harris may be the only option even if that also comes with massive risk
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It sounds like you’re assuming the “narrative” is being driven by antipathy toward Biden rather than a desire for a second Trump term, and/or that the “narrative” is something other than the conscious construct of media elites.
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I just don’t think this will be the narrative up until the election. We’re on day 7 right now but it’s kind of a boring and “yeah, duh he’s old” narrative already. I don’t think it’s as sticky as “but her emails!” because Hillary was a woman and also was Hillary Clinton. (1/2)
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I don't disagree with this, but I just...expect them to do the same thing to Harris? They'll find something else. Hell, the racism will just be out in the open. Anyone running on the D ticket is going to face a hostile media environment, and it feels like some people think a new candidate won't
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NYT only has a circulation of like 9 million people, tbh.
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If he drops out of the race the feeding frenzy will have only just begun
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Oh, I know. It'll pivot to a different negative narrative. I know.
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dems only have to get their nonexistent no-process-to-determine candidate on the ballot in 50 states in the next 124 days, the majority of which are goper-controlled. Any thoughts about what gopers will do when it’s time to put a brand new democratic candidate on their presidential election ballots?
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The one thing I really wonder, and we'll see, is whether what we're actually seeing isn't so much a ratfucking as legacy media having a tantrum about becoming insignificant that no one is really listening to but themselves
The narrative should be: Why do people want to be Trump’s VP? Remember Pence? SCOTUS rejects history, from Declaration of Independence all the way to Magna Carta? How do American women regain bodily autonomy?Not “Biden is old and slow.” It’s a doom narrative to foment chaos!!
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Thanks for acknowleging reality. The media has been awful for ages. Biden's campaign knew it- yet they asked for a June debate, blew that debate, and now they're saying the media is mean. The campaign obviously has no idea what to do. Complaining about the media's BS isn't going to get them to stop
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The 'Biden old' narrative won't stop and personally I accept it as preferable to the alternative catastrophizing narratives (unstoppable Trump KOs Biden, Dems in disarray and fighting about new nom) + the enormous logistical challenges of getting new nom on ballot and campaigning in just 3 months.
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A finite group of people decide what the “narrative” is. It is not some invincible fact of nature.
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I'm certainly not wedded to this candidate. But I am highly skeptical that a different choice would not then involve months of criticism of the switch itself or of the new candidate.
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Yes, they are delusional if they think this interview will fix it.
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(It isn’t, of course)
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I think if he stays in the should-he-drop coverage eventually stops or at least slows to a trickle as it no longer becomes practical, e.g. past ballot-printing deadlines. And Biden Old is baked in to some degrees. Might be more risk with a new candidate getting their own But Her Emails storyline.
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Olivia Nuzzi (yes I know) has a massive article in NYMag where she describes seeing Biden at a fundraiser in April where he asked her for her name. Joe Biden asked Olivia Nuzzi what her name was. It was joever a week ago but it's never been more joever than today, until tomorrow
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I'm not sure I understand the import of this. Did they date or something?
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Some of these fucking beltway reporters are so far up their own asses they're starting to come out the other side
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One of my favorite stories is when Hillary Clinton shook Jason Chaffetz's hand thinking he was Reince Preibus.
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Listen: This is a Big Deal because if it isn't, the New York Times will look silly and Trump might lose. Now act shocked Joe Biden doesn't know off-brand Ann Coulter and admit that the Democrats Are In Disarray and, therefore, Vote Republican, got it? /s
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ON was the writer for the massive 2019 Biden campaign profile. This got her frozen out of the Biden circle for years - they hated her for it - but as part of that assignment she spent six months on the trail with them. That he doesn't know her name five years later says everything.
Joe Biden’s Zombie Campaignnymag.com He’s the least formidable front-runner ever. Will it matter?
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I’ve forgotten names of friendly acquaintances and co-workers after 2-3 years. Now imagine you’re the actual president and it’s been 5 years
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Have you considered… you know… he was just trying to insult her? He does that all the fucking time to people he dislikes.
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Why would Biden, personally, remember Nuzzi? Reporter's wild self interest.
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Are you making an argument that the leader of the free world is responsible for knowing New York Magazine's politics gossip communist by sight?
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Yes, how could anyone forget about... What was her name again?
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That sounds like an entirely reasonable thing to do. I would also do that.
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I don't understand what this is supposed to mean at all
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Maybe we could stop driving the narrative too. Just a thought