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the journalistic failures surrounding Iraq were so vast and numerous that it felt hard to diagnose, but after Gaza it feels simpler. the institution is distinctly racist towards Arabs and Muslims - not in some abstract structural way but in the sense that NYT leadership views them as inferior
I didn’t think the Times could look any worse in a war than it did after Iraq, but they may have outdone themselves with Gaza
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it really does seem like "the arab world has a right to complain" as an idea is like suicide basically to them
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NY Times leadership saw that the head of The Atlantic personally tortured Palestinians & started to feel that they needed to one-up him
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Okay, 1.) Jesus FUCK, and 2.) that does put SO MUCH about The Atlantic into perspective and explain why it is the way it is.
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A fucking prison guard. Also imagine any other ethnicity - like say me being Polish - and growing up American and then moving to Poland to serve in the Army and then coming back to America. That’s weird isn’t it?
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It's extremely weird! Like being a colonialism tourist. Like, my grandma was literally born in Italy & I'd never even consider joining their military- what the fuck?! Also, I had to look this up, but the IDF "takes a person's preferences into account" when they're enlisted. He may have chose this!
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As an army vet, I can tell you walking into a American Army recruiting station and telling the Sgt. “I want to sign up and be a prison guard in a POW camp” is a bit of a red flag, even for the Army.
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I wish media would make a list of who was right about Iraq and listen to them. Stop quoting the people who were egregiously wrong about Iraq.
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McClatchy was the main outlet that was right but that version of mcclatchy doesnt exist anymore
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Problem is most of them were on the Wrong Side. They’re not gonna tell on themselves.
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Our entire "News" ecosystem would collapse then, as every senior position would be eliminated. Senior positions they got by lying us into Iraq, the same as their predecessors did by lying us into Vietnam, same as their inheritors will get for lying to us about genocide.
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It would be a short list if restricted to those who normally get quoted.
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California for the first time in two decades doesn’t have any senators that voted for the Iraq War.
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And is now looking to change that by electing Adam Schiff, who is a Pelosi protege that has spent years softening his image.
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Yeah it's far past the point of accidents of mistakes and has strongly reared into the malicious intent category.
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What's the saying? Once is an accident, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action...
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A pretty concise explanation of why the rise of anti-Arab sentiment in the US following the Israeli invasion of Gaza has not received the same attention as the rise in antisemitism, or why that tends to focus on conflating it w/ anti-Israeli govt sentiment on the left rather than the rise in Nazism.
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I wish I felt shocked by the leadership (both owners and senior staff) inability to prevent what happened, much less their Nixonian response or the lack of awareness of how their search for the leaker would be perceived.
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They are singularly focused on keeping the lights on while not cutting a single piece of bloat at the top. It's a ubiquitous experience at this point in most industries but Liberal Journalism has kicked the racism can down the road so long they aren't even bothering anymore.
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as someone who first grew politically active pre-iraq war describing the NYT leadership as liberal is very funny to me. T I am not saying you are wrong either.
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Liberal in the American sense, which basically means two steps to the left of Trump.
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in the 90s/00 liberal was used by the media to describe anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond, so there was an active push to try to use progressive instead. And now somehow liberal has come back around as a negative word but from the left to describe centrist-right
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it also refers to liberalism which is still fundamentally capitalist.
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Glad they employ something like 7% of all journalists. We're not fucked as a society.
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Where is T.E Lawrence when need him 😔 (guys i know he died in the 1930s dont tell me)
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anyone who didn't see Arabs and Muslims as inferior would sure as shit have been weeded out after Iraq, too.
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It feels like an extension of the conservative conception of groups which the law "protects but does not bind" and "binds but does not protect" but replace "law" with "journalism standards"
Moreover, they seem overeager to justify any military engagement on moral terms because having a Good War to report on papers over America's past mistakes and gives them an opening to develop political connections and become Influential.
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Indisputable at this point. It’s shameful.
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I think this is supplemented by the conviction that power belongs with the powerful and the Times is tasked to preserve that arrangement. In addition to the racism.
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Well it's their fault for living on top of our oil and gas and minerals and where we want to run pipelines! /s
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Tbh I think this was never very subtle, as one part (among many!) of what was going on circa 2001-06 or so
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The Very Smart People giddily conjuring the specter of 9/11 in the beginning not as a caution, but to prime the pump was kind of a give away.
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This racism permeates the Western world, but because *until now* it has never resulted in anything as shocking and tangible as the enslavement of Black people, it tends to be glossed over.
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Occam’s razor. “Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity.”
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journalism is also like that about transgender people
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Appears that post-9/11 vibes are back in NYC…or maybe never left. 🤷🏽‍♂️
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Do not equate NYT with NYC. The NYT has a notoriously terrible metro section, most of its staff isn't from NYC, and leadership mostly lives in like suburban new Jersey.
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Calm down there, Karen. I’m saying in a general sense, NYC may be easily influenced by the NYT and its anti-Arab bias due to post-9/11 fervor. That’s an irrefutable fact. When a fire goes underground, it’s called a zombie fire. Same thing happens with emotions around culturally significant events.
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And you're basing that on what? The New York Time. It's a national paper so pretending it's just NYC influenced is wrong. and even in when it was beating the Iraq drumbeat hard NYC was the site of the largest antiwar protests so
The Largest Protest Ever Was 15 Years Ago. The Iraq War Isn’t Over. What Happened?www.huffpost.com Can anti-war protesters claim any success?
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I'm not going to argue that NYC was free of anti-Muslim sentiment because that's patently untrue but pretending it was uniquely a NYC and not a national problem just marks you as delulu