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Worth noting Carnegie did this when faced with massive strikes and growing radical movements around the country. 1886 was the same year as Haymarket. His business partner/enforcer was literally shot by an anarchist. Public libraries are great but he and his ilk funded them because they were scared.
TIL Andrew Carnegie believed that public libraries were the key to self-improvement for ordinary folk. In the years between 1886 & 1917, Carnegie financed the construction of 2811 public libraries. Ironically this is the same reason rich people are now trying to defund libraries. Knowledge is power
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If society executed one random billionaire on the hour (ten per day) Monday through Friday until stuff was fixed, how long until a plan to fix things was agreed to? 8 AM 9 AM 10 AM 11 AM noon 1 PM 2 PM 3 PM 4 PM 5 PM
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I don’t know the answer to your question but this policy should not be restricted to business hours.
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you're right, needs to be a "Follow the sun" schedule, capital fucks us over 24 hours a day
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The 30 hr work week should apply to executioners too
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There’s no reason there can’t be multiple shifts.
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Only if collectively bargained.
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'All of them' would be a good start.
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and he wanted self-improvement in order to create an aspirational managerial class, rather than class-conscious workers who might unionize or otherwise engage in collective action!
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We need to make the rich afraid enough to start funding public goods again (and then keep going)
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lol for real but also I like my Carnegie library. I’m in a red state and they are keeping all the gay content on the shelves. Anyway. Make billionaires afraid again
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yeah, the libraries are very nice, but not handing him anything
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Oh, so THIS was the “good old days”
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Yep, it’s was his “Gates Foundation” for reputation laundering.
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I actually think it was all motivated by reputation laundering, not fear of an uprising.
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Me too. “Oh I’m super hated but want to be remembered as a good guy” did actually mostly work, too.
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Guilt over the Johnstown Flood was a factor too.
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Rich guys were never the good guys
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so how do we make this lot more scared so the fund libraries? *sip*
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Hiring strike-breakers while building libraries remains a very strong combo.
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I never realized one of the most useful classes I'd take to understand United States in the 2020s would be the high school history class America 1850-1920. (And reading The Proud Tower by Barbara Tuchman helped)
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In Pittsburgh, we always say he built a library in every neighborhood he screwed over. There are a lot of Carnegie libraries in the city. Tangentially, Frick's house is very nice and open for tours. His daughter Helen gave away a lot of his fortune after he died to salvage the Frick name.
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The libraries he funded were closed on Sundays, the only day working people had off.
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You’re not wrong but that still makes him better than today’s ultra wealthy, who see similar unrest and are dead set on continuing to give us jackshit
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Every bit of charity from Carnegie, Rockefeller, and all the rest was basically them trying to bribe their way out of angry mobs coming for them. Guess we need to bring back the angry mobs if we want billionaires to stop fucking around.
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Carnegie endowed a trust in his name that is still doing a lot of really good things to this day. I'm not buying that he gave so much because he was scared. *full disclosure, at one stage I worked with (not for) Carnegie Trust on projects to improve social housing.
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Me neither. It was PR/legacy building, not fear.
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I would like more billionaires to be frightened into doing good things for other people.
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But saved by the ghost of his dead daughter Martha, as he told story. 1892 and Homestead strike
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Not to be pedantic, I just love the Frick thought his dead daughter saved him.
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Wasn't implying that Frick's shooting happened same year as Haymarket, just listing some examples of how rage against oligarchs like Carnegie helped scare them enough that they poured cash into things like libraries. Ah, character limits
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My daughter just had a field trip to Frick Mansion. Everyone loves the Frick. I think it should be the site of a horror film Martha SEIU
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Another great example of direct action resulting in real material change!
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Maybe we should scare some more of them and see what we get out of it
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Not noting that Carnegie's prior actions resulted in an arming of his factory and the deaths of a dozen or more people seems a bit disingenuous. His business partner sent armed mercenaries (Pinkertons) against his factories workers, and then National Guard troops.
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Sounds like a good reason to make rich assholes afraid again.
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They would defund AI if they thought it helped us think.
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The bourgeoisie can’t help but give the proletariat the tools of their own destruction.
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I really need to be braver about actions that scare oligarchs.
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