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biden is raspy and stumbling and it is bad. trump is actually incoherent but he sounds confident. no idea how this will land
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This strikes me as more stupid bullshit from Frank
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the Fetterman effect
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There's no way there's a group of undecided voters
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if you believe anything that asshole says, well...
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There's a group of undecided voters?
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I’m firmly convinced people claiming to be undecided are just attention seeking liars.
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It's an incredible injustice that the architect for modern GOP discourse hasn't been fired into the sun yet
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i desperately want the opinion of someone who didn’t watch it but reads the transcript after
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the transcript will be just as bad. video with the sound off even worse.
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I have not watched for exactly that reason
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This hasn't mattered since Kennedy vs. Nixon, aka the first televised debate.
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Biden is making good points! He's calling Trump out! It's just coming out like pulling teeth.
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But often so incoherently it seems like he’s lost.
I watched a few clips, but not the entire thing. I've only read four questions on the transcript-- * Biden's speech was noticeably worse in the beginning. There's stumbles, mis-spoken words, and broken sentences. He was fine later on. And it wasn't about anger or laundry lists, he just improved
* Trump's answers were completely disconnected from the question. It wasn't just the lies, it was that he wouldn't answer the very simple question that he was given. A question about abortion turned into a rant on immigrants. A question about Russia became an answer about Iran. It was incoherent
* I had read commentary that Trump lied a lot, so was prepared to be angry about that. But, his refusal to stay anywhere near a topic is something that is very easy for people to notice. People joke about undecided voters watching the debates, but they do care about the answers.
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Kennedy v. Nixon redux part 80
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I didn't watch because I had to work today. Send me the transcription and I'll take one for the team when I clock off in an hour
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would not bet on it landing well for the good guys alas
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confident absolute lies beat whispering stuttering truth every day since the birth of the universe
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Trump is spouting straight up Great Replacement Theory, but hey! He seems passionate!
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Basically Trump is ChatGPT. Confident bullshit crawled from dark corners of the internet, but somehow fascinating lots of people just because.
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Literally anyone else vs. Trump would destroy him. Buttigieg. Whitmer. Pritzker.
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I doubt this. Debating Trump is like a scientist debating a creationist - not coming from the same basis, one uses logic and facts that the other does not need in order to be adored by supporters. It’d be the same talking past each other to already decided spectators. Utterly Pointless exercise.
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That being said, Pete would be entertaining for his relentless ability to stay on topic regardless of any attempt to derail him.
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Not a huge believer in the viability of the VP running but she would also destroy Trump.
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oh jesus christ not Newsom. HIS EX WIFE IS KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE
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No, she has all sorts of shit on him. Even if it's made up, it's "I was married to him!" POV. C'mon. He is a terrible choice
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And so much of what Trump says are easily fact checkable lies that someone could make a feature film of just the cutaways.
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I haven't watched the whole thing but right now he's not really stumbling, just raspy.
Biden campaign putting a statements saying he has a cold. Which, okay, but why didn't they ask to postpone the debate?
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Because then Trump would issue a press release saying that Biden is too weak and frail for the job and scared to debate him.
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Because that gets spun as weakness or fear.
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I think lots of Dems are looking for the emergency glass to break
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The only emergency glass is the current VP. At this point, the two choices are Biden-Harris, or Harris-??.
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Harris/Newsome? Harris/Buttigieg? Harris/Pritzker? Lots of options but need to make a decision fast
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With no functioning moderation or promised quality control safeguards, our best hope is most people wouldn't piss on CNN if its heart was on fire.
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The internet is very broke brained about this stuff, but I don't think debates actually do anything and haven't for a while and twitter is not indicative of what people are actually thinking in the general public.
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Biden is overprepped & he's swinging at everything, which is a huge mistake, because he's triggering his speech impediment by trying to include a fusillade of talking points every time he talks. He does better when he slows down & focuses on a couple key points.
Biden had too many hours of prep is my guess. When I train new people at work, I'm talking for hours for just two days and I feel my throat wearing away. And I'm not 81 years old
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Either way, it's not a good night for America. Biden sick and over-prepared, and Trump completely unchecked and unhinged. The news side can't handle this, print or television.
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bsky.app/profile/matt...
Eddie Izzard said something like it’s 70% how you sound, 20% your physical presentation and only 10% what you say