Post

Avatar
New rule: to comment negatively about immigrants, you have to first disclose why your own family members immigrated to the US seeking a better life, and why people facing much worse shouldn’t have the same opportunity. www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/...
www.washingtonpost.com
Avatar
Avatar
True. I think it’ll catch some unreflective people, but mostly serve as a flag to undecided others that these folks are mostly just racist and should be ignored.
Avatar
Avatar
If they're reflective people they're not conservative. Mutually exclusive terms
Avatar
Projectors, not reflectors
Avatar
Part of the problem is I think that some people's ancestors did just turn up and start murdering everyone who already lived there. But immigrants and colonial settlers aren't the same thing.
Avatar
Also you have to describe all the complicated procedures your ancestors had to follow to be legally admitted. For my ancestors I believe it was just waiting in line at Ellis Island
Avatar
My great-grandpa got a boat to Canada and then jumped the border. Given that he later worked as a prison guard I assume he later got right with the Feds.
Avatar
Bought land in the Penn colony in 1698. I guess it was pretty straightforward.
Avatar
Samesies except great great and owned a shoe store.
Avatar
My grandfather was a draft dodger from the Tsar’s army. He lived a productive and law-abiding life and raised three sons who served this country in WW2. Immigrants built this country. We need them to continue to do so.
Avatar
Nice, I’m on that shit too bsky.app/profile/ding...
Proud descendant of a Russo-Japanese war draft dodger here!
Avatar
Safe to say he made the sensible decision esp considering he wasn’t even Russian
Avatar
Trump's grandpa, though, was a draft dodger from the Germanies, came to America and worked as a pimp. Not all immigrants, or even all draft dodgers, are good people. But yes, I agree with you.
Avatar
Listen, I've heard that job ain't easy
Avatar
Mine abandoned their farm in Switzerland to get on a boat to avoid being beheaded for being the wrong variety of fundamentalist christians. And then many fled to Canada bc they wouldn't take (revolutionary) oaths here. We ran away bravely and often. And welcome the persecuted.
Avatar
What was the time frame? I know my great-great grandmother was born in Switzerland but I don't know why she ended up in rural Iowa.
Avatar
Some of mine left the Germanies to avoid the religious wars, went to England and found that their timing was ... not good and came over here. My Scots ancestors mostly left because they'd been on the losing sides of wars or political disagreements.
Avatar
Being a peaceable Scot was just not an option for a long, long time really. An ornery lot, you Scotsmen!
Avatar
Aye, and I suspect my Irish ancestor (who came over a few decades before the famine) was probably descended from Scots who'd been shipped over to go bother the Irish.
Avatar
Newer rule: even if you do explain, if you start talking shit about immigrants, you get blocked and labeled bigot.
Avatar
Avatar
Hey, what about those of us with family that's been here so long they appear in the info box for "events leading to the American civil war"
Avatar
Which side of the Civil War were they on?
Avatar
Just a player in events leading up to the civil war, not in a good way.
Avatar
Because my ancestors came here the right way! They showed up at Ellis Island and didn't have any communicable diseases!
Avatar
RW family friend cheerfully asserts that he is closing the door behind him so he can have all the good stuff that he has so long enjoyed. If immigrants come in, they will take it!
Avatar
Nice hypocrisy screener but frankly, I won’t listen to people judging the undocumented unless they first go to Brazil, then walk to Colombia and then go, with no planes involved, through Darien and on through Central America and MX all the way to the border. If they survive that.
Avatar
Proud descendant of a Russo-Japanese war draft dodger here!
Avatar
But I also want a world without borders, so
Avatar
Avatar
My great-grandmother got scarlet fever while visiting relatives in WI. Her parents returned to Europe and left her here to recuperate (she was 9 years old) and she just stayed. I don't know if she ever officially immigrated; she may have been ridin' dirty the whole time.
Avatar
Does that work in Australia for Reginald Outlaw and Angus Murderman?
Avatar
The only folks who get a pass (who nevertheless won't use it the way these folks would like) are indigenous Americans.
Avatar
One set of my great grandparents fled Odessa in the late 1800s; the others left Poland in the early 1900s. Can’t imagine why 🤔
Avatar
I was literally a political refugee, and the moment Communism fell, we went back.
Avatar
One grandmother was Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate, one grandfather moved back to Sweden, the other two were Catholic in places that didn't care for Catholics.
Avatar
Most recent family members arrived from Jamaica in ~1825, and established themselves in New York.