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The Brits know how to do an election night. We can't do it the same way, because we have a zillion different federal, state, & local offices up for grabs on the same day, plus ballot initiatives & referenda. But one night with elections to a single legislative house is so pure, it's fun.
we're only just getting started, time for the real coffee pot
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UK politics can be grim, but election night there with constituencies being largely ungerrymandered, losers standing next to winners of podiums, and the "election season is 6 weeks, not 2 years" default is incredibly wholesome
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also "if/when you lose, there's no lame duck season, the next guy arrives tomorrow at 10am" is a big UK W vs the US system, we should totes get rid of that
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just without the part where you ask the king for his permission to form a government
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Yeah it's not my favorite bit. Tho at least it's all just a weird cosplay and everyone understands very clearly that it's not real
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Tbf we also have our "ask electors to pick" and "ask congress to count" cosplay, which tbqh we should really move past, because while it's all fun and games as weird cosplay, we've found out to our detriment what happens when folks refuse to dress up and act it out
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The Tories could still win if King Charles has courage.
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tomorrow we get my favorite constitutional oddity which is that there's a ~ 1 hour period in which all UK executive authority formally vests in the King
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I'm still bullish on the US vs the UK long term, but as an aside, I'll gladly take "we pretend to give this guy total authority but if he tries to use it we'll chop HM Royal Head off again" over "the president is immune from all the crimes, as long as he's abusing his official power during them."
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I'm incredibly bullish on America's future. I get it's a bit hard to see these days--the death throes of unpopular authoritarianism is pretty scary and there are real problems in the immediate term--but I definitely think America's best days are still very much ahead.
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Oh yeah for sure, I prefer the American system to the British but I don't prefer John Roberts' version of it
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Have any of them ever done anything fun with it?
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No. But I sometimes use it as one of my "pwnallthethings conlaw nightmare examples", specifically: "what if the King accepts Sunak's resignation and then just doesn't invite Starmer to form a government"
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Can he commit crimes tho? Because, if not, is he even a real king.
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technically he can do crimes even outside of that 1 hour period
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The Magna Carta formally limits the crimes he can commit to just recreational tyrannies.
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He’ll have to be quick about it
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Does the King have launch codes for nuclear weapons for that hour?
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technically has the authority, yes
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I love the fact that the losing PMs are in their constituencies, so staff have to start packing so the new folks can move right in while the hand off happens with the monarch. Move ‘em out, move ‘em in, no time to load up boxes with documents…
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Prince Harry leans into tradition by raising an army in France to kill his brother
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This is like the peculiar 21st century Canadian habit of fantasizing that the governor-general or lieutenants-governor will block your political opponents from forming government, “for the good of the nation/province.” Technically possible, literally never going to happen.
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yeah that shit only happens to leftie governments, looking at Australia.
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Lol I read this as “if King Charles in Charge” and that sounds like one heck of a reboot
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Some Tories could channel the 17th C. “Behead King Charles” doesn’t scan as well as “Hang Mike Pence” though…
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He hates the Tories too.
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There's still time for a Tory PM to kill another reigning monarch and get William in there.
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It’d be the greens if that happened
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What makes you think the monarchy is conservative?
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I see a possible reboot of Charles in Charge.
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Does the king have judicial immunity?
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Like a DnD session where one of the players brings a Glock to the table
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We don’t even make the electors wear silly robes. You know Britain would have some sort of robe with different types of fur and feathers for each US state. One of their few Ws.
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The hats tonight have been a THING.
We don't even make the electors show up in the Capitol. They vote by mail!
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I think I see why you have so many followers. I don’t know who you are but appreciate the intelligent engagement you bring.
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Giving congress the option to change election results is a terrible system of government.
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The monarch is a great rubber stamp.
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King Chuckles the Third of His Name knows that he will meet the same fate as his namesake if he dares do anything beyond say "okeydoke"
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There's also the bit where black rod shows up and they slam the door in his face to stop him coming in.
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I thought the King asked the leader of the winning party to form a govt. No?