Emma Evans: It's important to note that Trump tried to order this at least twice we know of during his regime.

It's important to note that Trump tried to order this at least twice we know of during his regime.

right. the president could order troops to suppress protesters using live fire and the supreme court would extend that absolute immunity

It's important to note that under Trump unidentified federal officers were snatching people off the streets of Portland in unmarked vehicles, and deputized federal marshals crossed into Washington where they killed a guy (admittedly, a murder suspect) in what sure looked like extrajudicial murder.

This actually happened. For real. Trump wanted this guy killed and federal marshals mercilessly shot him dead in the street very shortly thereafter. And, bragged in a debate.

He bragged in a debate about ordering the Marshalls to kill Michael Reinoehl

Well remembered, my brain is swiss cheese this week. And yes, this happened, this horrifically happened. And there will be no justice.

I feel you on the memory stuff! We're all gonna have to dig up and share nasty stuff from past six years, and earlier. Now, white normies think "rights" protect them. I don't mean to talk down to people. It's just political education needs to happen fast. To stop people from getting picked off.

You're not coming off as talking down to anyone. 💕

Aww, thanks. For about a decade, my work was trying to protect public space for protest. And, protecting individuals who got b.s. arrests at protests. I had to stop doing that work because it was far too dangerous. But, I still care about people not being hung out to dry by the govt.

The Marshall Project curated a collection of Michael Reinoehl news articles:

Michael Reinoehl | The Recordwww.themarshallproject.org The best criminal justice reporting tagged with "Michael Reinoehl," curated by The Marshall Project.

No question that a second Trump administration orders officers to open fire on protestors and some of them comply. What happens next is anyone's guess, but that feels like a certainty.

Newsflash. Trump did. He also ordered ICE to use all means (deadly force) to round up migrants in 2017

Why are you talking to people who are saying "yes this is going to happen" as if we're bumbling around in the dark insisting that could never happen? You don't actually have to be aggressive patronizing.

Would the military obey him? I have a glimmer of hope they would … not comply … which is also a horrific thought. Civil war.

It wasn't military he tried to order and yeah I think cops would

Much more likely than the military.

yes. but no bets on the military, but at least they have education on war crimes and refusing unlawful or immoral orders

The white ones anyway. When I went up the protests against the selection of Bush, it was notable that somehow they had found gazillions of white ones instead of the typical DC force.

Great to know that the President can order murder of civilians and not be prosecuted, but someone in the military could be prosecuted for refusing the order.

But soldiers can't be prosecuted for disobeying unlawful orde... Oh, shit

No, as yet, the military may not be used against the citizens, order or not. Unless that law gets changed.

The military that is full of men who have been radicalized into the far right? They are thirsty for it.

He bragged in a debate about ordering the Marshalls to kill Michael Reinoehl

And at least 30% of the country would be ok with this.

This just made me realize- when the atrocities start happening, those inside the conservative reporting dome won’t hear about it. Their feeds be filled with AI nonsense. Worse, many who do hear will say “the libs did it first” because they’re being lied to about what’s going on in the present

To say nothing of his hurricane mitigation plan. 😬☢️🌀

or his COVID cures!

Guys, this is going to end in civil war territory before all is said and done. The first massacre of protesters will result in actual armed insurgency and blues states looking to leave.

Also, have some goons riding around in a van disappearing people

On July 12, Judge Merchan needs to give Trump a 4-month prison sentence. He can run his election from there. I don’t know why MAGA brings an Uzi to the battle, while Dems shake, quiver, & shake while handwringing. This MAGA SCOTUS is brazen. Now Merchan needs to deliver the only justice we get.

just as notably, read today in conjunction with pardons/clemency for Lorance, Golsteyn, and Gallagher

Ah fuck I missed that /punches the air

fuckin dark times.

and like the sun we rise we rise we rise

Do people really think that the only thing that stopped killing protesters was Trump thinking “wait! I don’t have immunity to do this. I better tell them not to”

it isn't clear to me whether the trigger pullers would have criminal immunity. 'following orders' may not be covered. it seems to say that the directions of the exec are immune, meaning anyone could be prosecuted except the CinC. This is an even deeper threat than what has been feared.

if a president didn't want to use immunity as a way to stay in power, his followers would face prosecution after a transition, which would incentivize them to support a president who was as ruthless and arbitrary as needed to protect them, by never allowing a change of executive.

creating a conditions for conflict that could only be alleviated by authoritarian rule. But, if you take that as a goal, the ruling is very well crafted, isn't it?

This article mentions fear of arrest curbing the underlings. I think that is wrong. It would activate them to support extremes, because their real fear is accountability, which would be limited by their strong man's control. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...

Supreme Court’s Trump immunity ruling poses risk for democracy, experts saywww.washingtonpost.com The decision raised fears that a future president will be able to act with impunity because official acts have been deemed off limits from prosecution.

yes. what are the legal implications for the non-immune who might follow his orders?

I fully expect this to happen

He’ll do it again, and a nontrivial number of elected Democrats will support it, including at least one senator from California

No, they will not support him, grow up.

But they broke a window at Starbucks

Your writing "regime" of his presidency is something the press should adapt, if they want to survive his second coming... #rfh

Has President #JoeBiden pardoned his son yet? He can now. 👍

He succeeded at least once

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