There are "change" elections and there are "please don't fuck my life up" elections and I think 2024 is definitely in the latter category and if Biden really isn't getting hurt by the bad debate performance, that's why.
my pitch to undecided voters: extremely old and weary Joe Brandon seeing the promised land (country where you don't have to hear about Donald Trump every day) even though he won't live long enough to get there himself:
Anyway I think the danger for swapping Harris or someone else in is that (if you are a low info voter) you can observe that Biden is currently President and your life is not getting fucked up, whereas who knows what another Dem you know nothing about would do bsky.app/profile/mtsw...
There are "change" elections and there are "please don't fuck my life up" elections and I think 2024 is definitely in the latter category and if Biden really isn't getting hurt by the bad debate performance, that's why.
There's been a weird backlash where there are a lot of people openly saying positive things about the Biden administration for the first time out of sudden fear that Trump is gonna win! bsky.app/profile/cric...
Maybe I’m biased as a partisan but the more distance from the debate the more i think bidens fine and the reaction was leftover 2016 trauma, everyone’s displacing their trump anxiety onto Biden. Trump took toxic positions on abortion and jan 6. Tiktok is mocking him saying “black jobs”
Like this is genuinely a more positive story about Biden and his campaign than typically gets any attention! Look at them smiling together bsky.app/profile/nyti...
As President Biden sought to address concerns about his age and energy, Jill Biden was by his side at a rally on Friday wearing a navy blue crepe dress plastered with one word over and over again: “Vote.”
They typically don't let the kind of people who support an aggressive NLRB on TV or on op-ed pages. This is one of the reasons they hate Biden's administration to begin with! bsky.app/profile/toms...
Also true for high-info voters tbh; would love to see some polling on how important the new wise-man leaders of the Remove Biden movement think it is for their replacement candidate to support an aggressive NLRB for instance
Remarkable that the Times and Post haven't done any "but in this college town queer bookstore, they still love Joe Biden" stories the same way they'd go interview a bunch of right wing rural diner guys about how they still liked Trump every time he had a bad week bsky.app/profile/teuc...
The contrarian machine is reversing polarity as we speak. Biden is going to start getting support from unlikely quarters now that taking that position pits you against the NYT editorial board.
Rev. Barber comments on controversy over whether Biden should step down due to debate performance:
“We can't get stuck on which candidate performs better on TV … Because in my tradition, Moses stuttered, but he brought down Pharaoh … I have trouble walking, but I know how to walk toward justice.”
Could the Times even find people in a diner/barbershop who watched the debate given it’s the lowest ratings since 2004 (which was an election the incumbent won)?
The contrarian machine is reversing polarity as we speak. Biden is going to start getting support from unlikely quarters now that taking that position pits you against the NYT editorial board.
I'm no prognosticator but it genuinely seems like Trump is maxed on his popularity. Biden still has plenty of tools to address his weaknesses and Trump has...? I don't know
My thing has been "the debate doesn't matter" but maybe a silver lining is that with Biden being so bad at the debate performance, certain people have had no choice but to think about actual substantive issues. It's not like Trump was good, he just sounded good spilling out deranged garbage.
The thing I keep reminding people is: other than the shit show with Israel, Biden has been a remarkably effective president, even if he's lost a little sharpness (and increasingly this looks like it was just a very very bad night for him, which is poor timing but it happens).
Another thing about Israel (that's hard to admit) is that it's a sign of how much Biden actually *is* in charge of his White House because it's a potentially damaging course of action yet something he's ideologically committed to, for good or ill. (Mostly ill.)
Good. I've been hoping the absurd overreaction would ultimately lead to a backlash. I bet we'll also get a fresh batch of "Well, actually, Biden isn't so bad" takes from the media soon too once their irrepressible need to Both Sides kicks in.
Also true for high-info voters tbh; would love to see some polling on how important the new wise-man leaders of the Remove Biden movement think it is for their replacement candidate to support an aggressive NLRB for instance
Not a single person on that after debate CNN panel would unequivocally answer yes. Guarantee it and probably only Jamelle Bouie would of the NYT op eds.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS WHAT I HAVE BEEN THINKING ALL ALONG. I DON’T WANT TO REPLACE BIDEN BECAUSE I HAVE NO EVIDENCE HIS REPLACEMENT WILL BE AS GOOD AND LOTS OF PRECEDENT TO SHOW THEY PROBABLY WON’T BE!
All caps were necessary, yes.
My biggest frustration with the calls for Biden to step down is the utter lack of consideration for who steps in to replace him, how that all works, and the prospect of launching a national presidential campaign with four months left.
tbf the latter 2 points aren't really for the general public to figure out how it would work, they don't have the expertise or knowledge to put together that type of plan. The 1st point though definitely, there needs to be something stronger than "idk someone else"
You can’t escape danger in politics. Running Biden, while voters are screaming “too old!” and he proves them right, is danger.
Harris can run on the Biden/Harris presidency, while forming cogent sentences and answering the call for voters who are loudly saying “none of the above.”
Trump being deranged all the time will turn off more voters who aren't very ideological. They liked Bush because he would go quiet. These people just want to watch football, BBQ, watch some tv with everything being ok. If I was the dems I would hammer on stability and tabloid crap daily w/ Trump
Agreed, and also, in a rematch election between a current against a former president with entirely opposite ideas on just about everything, I’m not sure you’d expect a debate to move a lot of people — even considering the fact that debates don’t usually do that.
I think he was denied entry to the Promised Land because YHWH told him to hit a rock with his staff once, but Moses did it twice, showing a lack of faith.
There's something oddly comforting about how the Old Testament God personifies nature as unremittingly strict and cruel.
Seriously. People who think God did a good thing by flooding the world to get rid of sin are not to be trusted with any positions of power. I mean, aside from murdering countless humans and other life forms, He did it for NOTHING. Humans started sinning again IMMEDIATELY.
the problem is that there'll just be a new shitweasel. after, of course, a vicious fight amongst all the junior shitweasels to see who, if any of them, has the most juice.
