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Ken Klippenstein is streaming with George Galloway. The Young Turks are hosting RFK Jr. One ex bernie spokesperson is streaming with candace owens and another is defending Nick Fuentes. Brianna Wu is hanging with lauren southern. Maybe now is the time to re-evaluate how the left chooses celebrities.
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The problem with celebrities is that they are often (not always) people who thrive on attention and can’t be without it.
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This is exactly it. We champion people who want to be in the spotlight too much.
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People who don't want to be in the spotlight usually aren't in a position to be 'chosen' to become celebrities.
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Politicians are also people that crave power. Self-selection in any kind of authority or celebrity is common and awful.
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It always comes back to the chans:
I think something from 4chan is apt for this loser:
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Our only criteria for platforming people is having one or two left wing opinions, hating liberals, being a little savvy with marketing in the age of the internet, and wanting to be famous
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By God that’s Gl*nn Gr**nw*ld’s music!
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I can assure you I was not given a choice in these options.
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This is the answer. One day people were like "Hey this is your guy" and they never really were.
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I cannot believe I supported Bernie Sanders in the primary season, only to see....some people who used to work for him later moved on to do different stuff. The vast majority didn't, but...unless the movement is 100% pure, say the people who decry purity tests...
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I mean, let's be real, Henry Kissinger opposed Nazis right up until Operation Paperclip then he flipped onto getting mad at Communists so hard he fucked up Vietnam's peace negotiations and then pushed to bomb Cambodia
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Like that one lawyer guy for Stormy Daniels who was suddenly everywhere, and then later milkshake ducked. Well, okay, I never chose him
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I don’t think anyone ever chose Wu. Just, in general.
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Ain't nothing as sad as a pickme who doesn't get picked
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No, she’s a developer, don’t you see? That means she is smarter than everyone else and has the best values at a time when all the important questions are right in her wheelhouse. Haven’t you been listening to her (talk about herself).
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I mean, props to her for parlaying a student project looking iOS game and a step-below-tertiary-at-best role in GG into a lasting, insufferable, and inextricable online presence. Wish she didn’t.
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Didn't she even insert herself into Gamergate?
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she sure did, and then got roasted for it, which in her telling these days was death threats, swatting, &. at the time i believe she was leaving gamergate-style reviews for her own (reportedly awful) game without logging out of her account, so…never been the brightest bulb, that one
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i guess that explains why ken wasn’t interested in joining the Substackers Against Nazis campaign
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He was too busy filing a FOIA on something no one cares about
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Contrarianism is literally the Monty Python Argument Clinic over and over again https://youtu.be/uLlv_aZjHXc?si=UrONszXU_CPP8ZKf
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If only it where this funny. For these guys lazy cynicism is a means of avoiding the cringe (and the labor) of sincerity.
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"and the labor" is exactly right! These are people who aren't willing to get down in the trenches and do the grunt work required to make a change. To mash up timelines, they would rant on their podcast that JFK wasn't protecting the Freedom Riders but they'd never set foot on a bus.
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Calmer than you are.
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i don't understand how this is contrarianism like, because they're all celebrities?
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this post isn’t contrarian. the dirtbag left is contrarian. and contrarianism isn’t a coherent political ethos.
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oh, sure. i agree with that, thanks for clarifying
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Of the roughly 500 Bernie ex-staffers in our FB group, almost all of us are just doing useful organizing work with no celebrity at all, so while your point is a good one, I don't want to let the crappiest leftists define us either
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No, it doesn’t define all of you, but the point is that having been a Bernie staffer doesn’t make anyone immune from unbelievably shitty politics. And in several cases, they do have shitty politics. In part because tiny incremental shifts to the left are not an ideology.
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Yep, agreed. Unfortunately nobody is immune from shitty politics lol, it can happen to anyone.
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there were plenty of staffers who weren’t grifting dirtbags, but they didn’t do enough to overcome the dirtbags. the Bern App was garbage, they didn’t organize in poor neighborhoods, didn’t come up w separate strategies for older voters, told us to get off twitter but there was no way to volunteer
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Very fine grifters on both sides
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Seems like they all eventually move towards the same side
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The money only has one side
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That’s the thing—people love to accuse the socialist left of “purity testing” when we warn people about these assholes. And they get all upset about our bar being “too high.” And that’s how they make Russel Brand their hero and learn nothing from the experience.
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ohh i withheld my oofs when Ken RTed Glenn Greenwald congratulating him for quitting the intercept but OOF what is it with GGs?
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What did Gigi Gorgeous ever do to you?
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borrowed my Gurdjieff books and never returned them
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This Greta Gerwig slander will not stand.
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she knows what she did (carved out a wildly successful auteur career within an overwhelmingly male-oriented industry)
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Something always put me off about Ken K. I guess my instincts were right
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