Post

Avatar
Not that anyone particularly cares about original meaning, but think folks should still say it out loud: For all of the things that are unclear in the founding documents and unknowabilities of what the Founders intended, "the President can kill anyone or commit a coup" was *never* legally arguable
Avatar
Like there's a lot they were not especially clear about, and all sorts of reasons where we shouldn't tie our own future to their past. But "Kings are bad; the President is not a King; he must be constrained by law" is one of the few things they were, to their credit, very clear about
Avatar
As a British person I kind of thought that was the whole point of the affair from 1776 onwards. You all made a whole big thing about it.
Avatar
IKR. "What did the founders think about being ruled by kings" is one of those things you can answer really easily by reading a history book, lol.
Avatar
I want back every fucking moment of my life that I was made to listen to them lecture on and on and on and on and on about Obama and his executive orders and “presidents aren’t kings”
Avatar
Schoolhouse Rock has a song about it.
Avatar
Well, we can judge their grasp of history by second amendment jurisprudence in Bruen et seq. ...
Avatar
Avatar
Did you ruin all that tea for nothing?
Avatar
No, we ruined all that tea because it wasn't being taxed.
Avatar
I think my key point is that you shouldn’t ruin tea.
Avatar
That was mostly over the EIC having a near monopoly and flooding the market with cheep priced products from enslaved India
Avatar
To be fair a large number of them were Slave Owners so they did know what absolute power felt like
ISTR seeing some commentary that we almost crowned our own George anyway. The version I saw was that, interestingly, despite his ambition to lead the Revolutionary Army, he really didn't want the title, and seriously they weren't going to pick anyone else to be the head of state instead.
Avatar
Those are all history books printed in the old times. The new history books will be printed soon enough.
Avatar
Ah, well, turns out some people got hyperfocused on the not paying taxes part of the kerfuffle and didn't actually think monarchism was all that bad, just in need of a dusting and a little paint.
Avatar
Britain was in the middle of abolishing slavery, and the American Revolution was about avoiding that. "Kings are bad" was just written in to make things look better.
Avatar
Oh, but that was so long ago....
Avatar
And describing this as “making the president a king” and “we fought a war about this” is itself wrong, because the England we broke away from had already established that the *king* is not above the law! They fought a whole war about it 150 years earlier!
Avatar
We've fought a lot of wars about this, but today, a Supreme Court asks: why not tee up one more?
Avatar
Avatar
Nations must constantly keep kings in their place. that place is ideally, underground.
Avatar
this is what boggles me, bc the founders were clearly *massive* Ancient Roman Republic weebs, and there it is literally the biggest thing 🤷
Avatar
Like, just do a diff with the previous version, folks. "Our new system is mostly the British system we had before, except, just to be really very clear: (1) absolutely under no circumstances have a state religion and (2) no Kings" is like ... arguably the two biggest and most central ideas they had.
Avatar
Republicans: "omg that's an under-served constituency!"
Avatar
And one is now dead, so they can focus full efforts on the second.
Avatar
We, on the other hand, have a king who is constrained on all sides by law and custom.
Avatar
Avatar
Indeed. And it’s not a bad thing that our king lives 17,000 kms away.
Avatar
You gotta cage your royalty, if you have to have 'em.
Avatar
Ides don't know what you mean by that....
Avatar
Washington would be flipping goddamn tables over this one
Avatar
he'd be rounding up the militia to burn the court down
Avatar
Could a president do so as an official act?
Avatar
I literally have a musket and 18th century militia gear....
Avatar
I mean it was a WHOLE thing at the time.
Avatar
Has anyone checked Hamilton's grave down by WTC and Wall Street for rotation?
Avatar
This should kill the lie of so-called originalism stone dead.
And all this in the context where the prior (at least) 5 centuries of British history can roughly be understood as a struggle to put constraints and accountability on the throne.
Avatar
REALLY weird that all those Originalists missed that point!
Avatar
How generous of you to consider their "originalist" viewpoint as sincere rather than something that at the time conveniently lined up with their undisclosed priorities.
Avatar
Well, "generous" or "gigantically facetious," one or the other.
Avatar
Avatar
Avatar
I've only just met you and I like you already.
Avatar
SCOTUS has created a kingship above the law. Best not elect to this office a lawless man.
Avatar
SCOTUS has the power. The Judiciary has failed.
Avatar
Yea, a lotta problems with the Constitution that’d be nice to fix, but this isn’t one of them. This is a problem with the court, and can only be fixed by fixing the court.
Avatar
There could have been an article that read “The President is subject to all the laws passed by Congress, even for his Official Acts, regardless of what future people named Roberts might think”, and this court would’ve reached the same conclusion
Avatar
In fact, this case has me down on Constitutional Amendments as a manner of constraining this court. They won’t be constrained. They must be neutralized